Yeah the Mazdaspeed is a great car, but the Spec V is just as quick for less money. The Neon is fast as hell, but its a Neon and once again its more $. The Spec V just gives you the best bang for your buck. And with turbos just about to hit the market, youre gonna be lookin at some fast cars. Oh and about the torque. You have to look at the car for what it is. An N/A 4 cylinder. Not a big-ass V8. And for an N/A 4 it makes great torque.