Originally Posted by
PussixD10
I'm not sure. It was just an example. What background information do you have other than he said she said from the forums and how do you know "proof is easy to obtain?" Are you an attorney?
Proof of work done is easy to obtain, by the means of quoting around shops on the same work. Hours estimates should be included. I'm not an attorney, and I'm not even in the states, so I'm not even familiar with the local legislation, I'm just using logic to get facts there, like the judge that would be hearing both sides may too. Use yours too.
Originally Posted by
PussixD10
It isn't just xx times the original quote, but I think the absolute amount plays a role too. I ask again, where is the discovery of facts from other than so and so on the forums said this and that? Lets keep in mind that member posts here are far from "unbiased input".
Many feels that the shop is absolutely entitled to whatever asking amount that it is.
Thats my point, of course the absolute amount is important. Do you believe a judge will consider that 4k paintjob valid if it ended being 80k (20 times)? what reason has the shop owner to lie about that? Of course the judge will ask for proof of work request, some of it is on paper, the other was verbal. perhaps he'll ask Joe, if there was a verbal agreement, he may deny it, but if you look around, you can actually confirm there WAS a verbal agreement btw the shop and Joe, use search here, or Google... example:
teamSSP ~ View topic - Looking to join
Here he's detailing all the work that is/was to be done on the car, would that be without his consent? Do you see there just a paintjob? or maybe was one of the shop owners that created accounts all over and started to post the proofs of their future scam to a poor kid
Originally Posted by
PussixD10
Posts personally ridiculing Joe won't really won't help the matter or get this anywhere and if he is assaulted, it will just make this place the target of man hunt.
Are you saying I'm ridiculing him? if yes, please post proof of the offending text and I will gladly remove it.
on the other hand, you are ridiculing joe, just with your avatar picture, and at the same time, hinting that he may be innocent. Do I smell a troll?
Last, this is the post on which Joe says the paint job was 6k :O
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/g...ml#post5690293