thats not good to hear at all though...I mean i understand the abuse those electionics are put through (mud, sand, water, tree bark when you miss the trails ) but youd think theyd have a stout mechanism in there. I dunno, Im just thinking how my dad has a 1978 Deutz tractor and he uses it probably twice a week in the groves. NEVER HAS EVER had a starter problem or any of that jaz, and its turning over a diesel engine. They arent making stuff stout enough nowadays Nothing is metal or cast iron, its all plastic and shitty im just ranting, ill stop now, I KNOW Warn makes helluva a good wench, especially when it comes to weight limits and the speed of retraction and heavy duty gear boxes or whatev they use inside, im just saying....