Originally Posted by
GsT Racer
dude shut the hell up.
this kid came in here because he obviously wants an eclipse. i dunno if you are buttsore over a previous 4g63 experience or whatever, but get over the fact that a lot of OTHER people's DSMs break down and a lot of OTHER shops mess up people's DSMs, but thats not always the case.
I've had my current eclipse for a year and a half, and the only thing thats gone wrong with it was water pump, which actually never WENT, just started leaking out of the service hole. I then drove it like that for about 6 months before replacing it. Other than that, the worst thing was an intercooler hose blowing or something dumb.
Ive had 3 cars, my first car was a 90 talon NA. beat the piss out of that car with no problems. I was 16 years old, and doing 5k rpm burnouts everytime i was first at the light. Not one problem. The only problem i had was that I had no concept of timing marks, and one day when i changed the tensioner and put the timing belt back on, the car ran funny and the head was toast AFTER about 5-10k miles. user error.
my second car was a 91 eclipse gs turbo. The only problem I had was a bad ecu, which happens to a lot of 1g's anyways, but i owned it for about 3 years. I ragged the piss out of that car too, but had a little more experience with mechanics by then. The hardest thing i had to do was replace the radiator because the old one was rusted.
the point of all this is to say that DSM's can be good reliable cars. People do beat the crap out of them, and some have big issues like crankwalk, etc. But if he got a 2g a/t gst, changed the oil, plugs, wires, and air filter regularly, the car will last him a long time and be very fulfilling.
Dude you shut the hell up, your obviously missed the point. It has nothing to do with being but soar homo,so take your stupid remark elsewhere. I have owned over 13 DSM's built 9 of them and just rebuilt and installed an engine in another one last night, guess you didn't notice the sig either

. I have probably been fucking with these cars back when you where swinging around in your daddy's balls and have probably forgotton more about them then you will ever learn.
With that being said, this kid if going to spen his every last dime on a car that will be his first car and needs to be relaible. When someone spends their last little bit of money on something they don't have anything else for unexpected repairs. He is not you nor I and it does not matter if we had good or bad luck with them. These cars are mechanics cars period and not for someone that knows nothing about them and have no mechanical knowledge. This kid will be happy when he knows that he can take a girl out on a date without all his tools in the trunk and watching his gauges like he is driving a race car. He will be happy when he doesn't have to call into work more than once a month with car issues. I have gone to Lakeland 5 times in the last week and everytime and every trip there was a DSM on the side of the road. First two where 1g's and the last 3 where 2g's, so aside from all the TR trama BS let the kid get something he will enjoy and not regret.
Hey man, if you have your mind set on one of these carsand your not getting Fernando's,I suggest buying one as cheap as you can from someone older than 25yrs old. Save enough money on the side to have Brothers put you a fresh bottom end in it. Also replace anything that needs to be replaced. You need to save about $1-1500
after purchase of your choice of car, that would be the best way to go.
If you need any advice or help looking one over or picking one out, pm me and we can set something up.
Miguel