yeah. like i was practicing in my friends ex hatch the other day. and he taught me a different way then my other friend did. should i believe the genius? or a guy that races?. the hatch was pretty hard to drive. lol. it had a deployed airbag no power steering or dashboard lights (LOL)and it was a pretty bumpy ride and i stalled once. my friend with the hatch said i did good and made his front tires spin. lol. and my genius friend had a neon. like. isnt there a certain point i should shift or something?. my friends say its like a feeling. btw im still kinda new at stickshift so im not that great but im getting there.