Originally Posted by LongFellow

Yea compete with the lower end civic which at the time made the same amount of hp. the SI wasnt much above that untill the last year or two.

And i was comparing the RSX to the focus because the thread starter did also comparing the B and K series motors with the one in the focus. They are on two differnt levels. GM has some potent 4cyl's now in the cobalt, sky and solstice, which I belive the turbo version is pushing 260. and ford has the turbo 4wd focus in europe which is on par with an evo and STi. but since the rest of the world is less concern'd with tree hugging we get the short end of the stick most the time.

Either way the civic is an economy car not its not even a sport compact unless you are talking about the Type R. and so is the focus, the AEM thing was just marketing idea to get people to buy them. and Saleen is an outside company, if you buy one its a dealership special. they are not part of ford.