Wow....
I'm not fond of shite talking....so I will put in my 2 cents, from first hand experience.
"Are you serious? 13b N/A motors are SHIT, they are the shittest fucking motors around. They wouldn't even be able to still see the rear bumper of a stock SR'd 240."
WRONG. 2 years ago my 87 GXL NA with light mods, no porting, kept up pretty well to a sr20det equipped, s13 bodied 240sx with downpipe, exhaust, and intake. It was from a roll on a highway, and in 4th he started pulling on me, but it was not a total spanking. That was with the ultra long GXL gearing that further detracts from acceleration.
"First off you can't port them that much (compared to a TII)"
TRUE. You can perform much more porting on the 4 port irons.
"the ports are smaller then hell, a big streetported 6port plates will only be as large as STOCK port TII plates."
WRONG. Stock for stock, the 13bt (turbo) primaries are larger, but the secondary intake ports on the 6pi NA are much larger. They have more volume/area, and close timing is MUCH later than stock 13bt secondary ports.
"You HAVE to run a aftermarket ecu if you want to even consider hitting over 200rwhp with 6port plates and no turbo."
For over 200rwhp, yes...For 200rwhp, NO. All you need as far as engine management goes is a piggyback AFC. You can do an aux port bridge on the stock ecu with an afc. If you switch to 4 port irons and do a half or full bridge, or peripheral port, you need a different ecu or carb setup. Bridgeport NA's will make 200-280rwhp, Peripheral port NA's will make 200-320rwhp.
"Just about the ONLY thing good in that ENTIRE drivetrain is the rotors and the eccentric shaft (for a 9.4/9.7 turbo swap)."
Why would you use high compression rotors in a turbo motor? If you go with a 13bt, stick to the stock rotors, whether it be 8.5:1 or 9:1. The horsepower potential will be much greater.
"Plus the turbo engine will be more reliable and will kill that full bridge after a BNR or equivilent turbo and an Rtek2.0 or megasquirt/haltech/wolf ecu etc.."
Unless you are cutting into the water jacket O-rings for a bridgeport, a non-turbo 13b will outlast a turbo 13b by many, many miles.
Last edited by t2 Under Pressure; Feb 18, 2007 at 12:17 PM.
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