Originally Posted by Sourskittle

If by "mod the hell out of them" you mean run 11.94 without ever taking the valve cover off or even the intake manifold with the stock charge pipes, turbo, pulleys, cam gears, PS, A/C, full interoir, stock returnless style fuel system, stock fuel pump, stock fuel rail, stock air box and original 22K mile air filter, stock throttlebody, stock clutch, stock axles, stock suspension, and ahhhhh, ole yeh, my wife drives it to work and to take the kids to school.

Then if that's " modding the hell out of it ", then yea.... That's get you 11.9 in a "generally ugly" dodge neon.... Add a clutch, and flip the nitrous on, and you get 11.40s.

BTW !!! What's it take to make a honda civic run a 14.9 ??? Just a new motor, new tranny, new axles, $2K turbo kit, aftermarket clutch, and... Yea... Pretty much an entirely new driveline....

The SRT4 is what it is... Its about the only 4 banger priced fairly, reliable, and doesn't give a shit about what rice boys think ( or about other $35K+ FI V8s or over priced AWD turbo 4 bangers ).

Its not a $36K cobra ( with 3 times the insurence premuim ), but its as close as some people can afford, and I've not once regreted it.
I've had a 5.0 fox, I've had a turbo honda, and I've had a turbo fox. This car is not only the fastest, but also the most reliable.