Originally Posted by
Orion ZyGarian
You are the reason I dislike Hondas and their croud so much. You think Honda is godly, but actually they are the worst out there. The little HP that you have is useless because it is up in the stratosphere; you guys need to come down to earth. Know ≠ no, the fact that a certain Supra engine is twin turbo has absolutely nothing to do with its power or potential, TERSEL ≠ Tercel.
Toyota's 4 bangers arent the best out there, but they are years better than anything Honda has had to offer, save for maybe the K24 or 2.3T. Rediculous amounts of time and money went into designing the Honda engine to be as economical as it is; trying to undo that and make it as "sporty" as you can is working against yourself IMO which is why it is so hard to get any usable power out of them.
wow. didn't realize you felt so strong. honda strives for something different. They push or meet 100 horsepower per liter mark. N/A that is. not many brands do that. M3 does. I have driven hondas for a few years. I guarantee i hate the honda crowd more than you. the only honda I still own is just my pos beater. I am on the other hand going to start tuning my 1jz supra tomorrow.