Thats one thing about you honda ricers, you always put up one model vs honda. Oh yeah btw check your caps. If you're running 13.6 with just a stock swap then that must have been a hell of a dump on that clutch. Rev to 8k and dump Besides as the point has been made the car weighs in less then 2k, ofcoarse its not going to have much traction issues. But really where does the performance come to a halt for a honda engine with out dropping retraded amounts of money into it. Oh yeah a Paseo/tercel with a stock 3sgte > then any honda with stock type R. Lets say you swap a 3rd gen 3sgte into a paseo or tercel, stock 3rd gen puts out like 250 hp and a hell of alot more torque then any type r ever will. To crank out more power out of a 3sgte is so much easier then any type r.