No Im saying it has more potential from the factory. This doesnt need to become another Evo vs. STi thread . I dont have the money to fix the parts that spray breaks, so thats out (even though Id love to do it). And as far as the driving comment, go on NASIOC and see how many STi owners are still in the 12s with bigger turbos and more power than that Evo. There are good drivers in the community, but it seems like theyre an endangered species or something.