Manny , your right , unless you have a Bill of Sale...Bill of sale with a lost title is doable.. I didnt have a problm with it.. I bought an old beater to fix up , guy misplaced the title , instead of him doing the title search and me waiting , i brought my bill of sale to the dmv , did the title search and walked out with the title ,came back a few days later with it signed , not his signature of course and i got every thing done...Not saying its the best way togo about doing things , but when ur in a pickle , it works...