I love when people talk out of their ass and really have no idea what they are talking about. When I talked to John Griggs (check the name again if your slow) he said there was absoluty no problem running the KB matrix kit with the severe duty torque arm. Last I checked he is more qualified to make that decision then anyone here or on corner-crackheads.com. Only ones saying KB sucks are the ones not running them, everyone who has tried or is using them is more then happy with the results.

I've been running that combination (torque arm with KB) now for almost a year with plenty of launches on slicks and drag radials. No sign of fatigue.

As for stock subframe connectors they are really a joke. They are bolton units that inturn end out tearing where they boltin. You need to have subframe connectors welded in or your wasting your time.

The MM full length are pretty good units too and the griggs through floor are awesome but thats for a track car only. I still contend the global west are the best all around for money. They provide jack rails, plenty of ground clearance, heavier guage steel then most other manufactors and fit perfect everytime. The KB kit is very nice but much more labor intensive to install then any of the others.