good, i'm not tring to take personal bashes, i like a good solid arguement everyonce and awhile!! lol the simple fact that all americans can argue about in they're cars defence is "ohh i have TQ" well wooopty doo. a 800hp 2j still has 700ftlbs of tq. i mean, the nice puch in the back boost creates is just as good, and no stupid squeeks and rattles from a crappy chassis to deal with!!! my ideal POS desighned american car has to be the 93 and up Camaro/firechicken. i mean come on, have you ever sat in one of these things? i'm been in 80's hyundai's with better build quality. look at ponticraps line up, the only 2 cars worth a dam they don't even build. the GTO and Matrix. i kow the motors are good, but i mean come on how long has chevy been building v8's? i give them credit for getting one thing right. i really don't have alot of gripes with ford except for the fact that they build their cars absolutely to hard to work on or service. last time i checked you could make a mustang handle well too, mine would just be a 2.3 turbo coupe.