thank you for all your help, im totaly tight on money, so i didn't want to go out and buy everything on the shelf lol.yea, i got a new shroud wasn't the cheapest though. so if i can go with just electric fans and a tranny cooler, i might just swap it and sell the shroud. but yea, the coment you made about you overheating before your car does is exactly how i felt driving down belcher today. i thought i was going to die-no A.C.........