thats true but you do have to admit they tend to be unreliable i have a 1990 the first year they came out. pruobles everywhere. yeah ecus shorting out not a maitiance error mafs going dead not a maitiance error. they have a very bad rap. funny thing every dealer ship i went to i told them i have a talon for a trade they didnt even have to look at it, they just said "no thanks". so its not that they were givin a bad rap the car earned it. and behing i have one of the first ones to be put out on the market, the problems were plentiful.