Originally posted by oilleak
Amen! As far as I'm concerned, Dont come back. The less assholes around (Leonard excluded of course) the better. You guys want to be thought of as something other than "ignorant and rash" kids then you need to act like adults, not pubescent hormonal morons. If you can remember back to that last thread, Matt Chin joined in with comments that were thoughtful and articulate. You guys just post vile crap for your "thoughts". It's you guys who are giving your sport the bad name.
I definitely understand what you're saying and why you're saying it, but let's try really hard not to stereotype. Matt was not the only "drifter" who posted coherent thoughts about drifting, and I know there are serveral other drifter-types who read all of that stuff and chose to remain silent. There are a select few who are vocal and overly gruff in their responses and take things too personally. They know who they are.
Please, as
nunyo said early in this thread, we don't want this to be a "bash the drifters" thread. I think all any of us want here is understanding. We want people to understand that there are reasons that we can't allow outright "drifting" at autocrosses and there are limits to how much "drifting" can be tolerated at an autocross. The sticky part is that different people have different limits. Best to not test those limits, or if you think you might... talk to the event organizers about it BEFORE you go out. Let them know that you have a "loose" driving style, ask them to watch you and tell them that if they have a problem with it to just let you know. Good communication is the key.
FYI, some of the best autocrossers in the country "drift" sometimes. The one year I went to the Solo Nationals, I watched Danny Popp drift his BSP Corvette around several sections of the course quite brilliantly. BUT... he wasn't hanging it out just to show off and no one ever had any question about whether or not he was in control.
I'm sure the guys who went to the Nats this year probably made similar observations.