Originally posted by Scott
Funny how no one has touched this part of my previous statement:
"And I know for me and many others it lacks respect becasue it is all based on judging. No lap times or e.t.'s to improve upon just basically who looks the coolest. What is there to aim for ? No lap records, personal bests (lap times), etc..
And the car can basically be some shitbox with the right tires on it and you are good to go. Sure a little extra power helps but again it lacks so many things other motorsports have. "
You guys say it is more than just sliding around corners "it is art"
ummmm o.k. and that drag racing is just stepping on the gas and going. I will stick with my previous statement of you guys are basing drag racing on your own 14 or second slower cars.
This would be a more interesting debate outside of this forum.
I already answered your question. Drifting is hard to grasp for you because of your mentality and your need for hard evidence. You can't just go out there your first time and drift. You'll be understeering and spinning out, SO there IS indeed room for improvement. Someone might be drifting and comboing (one drift after another with weight shift), but not using the right lines, so another example of someone with room for improvement. Speed is actually a factor in drifting. Like I said, speed of entry, angle of entry, etc all contributes to drifting at a higher speed than your competitor which means in tandem you can probably pass your competitor on the inside.
There is always room for much improvement as was seen at DDayII last saturday. Most people (the beginners) started out understeering. Then they moved on to spinning out. Finally, by the end of the day, each person had conquered at least one turn on the Primus track. The goal I'm sure of each person was to be able to drift the entire track, which obviously is impossible to learn in one day.
Even experienced drifters found Primus to be difficult. There's another place with need for improvement. To be able to drift on any track with any compound. Because primus was more technical than say an oval track, many found it to be too "tight" and had a hard time finding their lines and correct techniques. Like road race, with drifting the track or wherever will almost always be different in many cases, especially with practice events. If you're a professional or just really good you would probably be able to drift ANYWHERE.
My car ran a 13.2 @ 106mph and is probably capable of a little better. Matt Chin's car is capable of being in the 12's now. It's not like there's much room for improvement once I reach what my car is capable of with the best driver. There will be nothing more to improve unless I modify the car. I have nothing against drag racing. I just find drifting to be more fun and challenging. Drag is definitely challenging as well since I obviously didn't do well the first time I tried it. Drifting is definitely easier with more power, that's why we like practicing in the rain because rain = +500hp for the car.
I agree, any kid with a POS 240 can go out and try to drift, but ANYONE will tell you that having more power, wayyyy more suspension, etc, will help tremendously. Not only make it easier, but make it possible in some cases. If you've seen any pro drifters you'd notice their cars are usually race cars... hahaha 500hp, etc.
Are you understanding any of this? I get the feeling you just came in here to flame drifting and cheer for drag racing.
Did I touch it enough?
Oh yeah and WHAT SUCIO SAID! Well said.