This guy was just looking for a few boltons to make the car slightly quicker. The context the SE-R guys are getting bashed in is completely different; SE-R guys are talking about making the cars fast. Comparing it to the SRT-4 is another bad move the SE-R crowd commonly makes- you can't compare a factory turbo car with a stout, meant-to-be-modded engine to a naturally aspirated four cylinder that doesn't want to rev. Not trying to bash you here, just giving some reasons why the response in the other threads was different.