I have 4, 4 lug 17" konig tantrums with 4 yokohama perada spec 2 tires with about 90% tread on them and the rims have no curb marks but a few nicks. I was looking to trade for some 16s or 15s with good tires i realy am looking for some si rims but if you want to trade make offers i will have pics asap but these are what they look like . thanks.......Matt