you can now be ticketed for watching street racing ,lmao

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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Default you can now be ticketed for watching street racing ,lmao

says they can give you 3 points on your license, thats ridiculous.

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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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welcome to the year 2000.





they once took my passenger to jail with me for riding along. a lawyer later got his dropped, but still over the top since we were only watching a race anyways.


cops can do whatever they want when they want to. then its left to you and the system to fight it out. its all a fail.
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Yea but it is very easy to get out of.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Yep. Good times. I would personally like to hear the viewpoint of one of those spectators if, say, their mother was killed by a car that was racing illegally. They might recant earlier expressions of "innocent fun," "getting hassled by 'The Man,'" "I was just watching, not racing," etc. Spectators aren't the cause, but they sure as hell aren't doing anything to stop it, either.

Oh, and I'm going to turn on my Grammar Police Siren for a second, too. In that article, the author writes, "...it would behoove you..." is a corruption of an Army phrase (which probably stems from a Marine phrase). The phrase proper is, "It would be HUAH of you." HUAH is a shortened, monosyllabic adaptation of "Hoorah." Hoorah is used widely by Marine Corps members to express jubilation, energy, excitement, agreement, and understanding. The Army adapted, "Huah," as their equivalent. Since a "hoof" is the foot of an animal of several "hooved" species, I can only imagine that "behoove" means "to add hooves to" something.

Um, I prefer to receive no hooves today. Thanks.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:35 AM
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Who's mom died watching an illegal street race!?! I understand why street racing is illegal as it is dangerous on a public street and the participants should be ticketed. However, to ticket people who are simply gathering in a public area does not seem right to me on any level. Sure, there may be some danger in being there considering the illegal activities that may or may not transpire, but as long as they are adults (18+ years old) and there of their own free will, so be it. I don't see how just being in a public area can be considered illegal.

People die every year watching legal, sanctioned, rally racing events around the world. They don't shut those events down because the people that line the sides of the course are there of their own free will and know full well what they are getting themselves into before they ever arrive. Not the same as illegal street racing obviously, but from the spectator's perspective the risk is the same and from the legal perspective only the people actually breaking the law by speeding should be held accountable.

Seriously though, who has ever gotten a ticket for simply being somewhere at the wrong time? Technically, I suppose cops could write you if there is a law against watching street racing, but I have never heard of this happening to anyone (of couse, I don't hang out around the idiot kids that street race down here either). Could you just close your eyes and say, look officer, I am not watching anything!?!
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Originally Posted by dkutin
Who's mom died watching an illegal street race!?! I understand why street racing is illegal as it is dangerous on a public street and the participants should be ticketed. However, to ticket people who are simply gathering in a public area does not seem right to me on any level. Sure, there may be some danger in being there considering the illegal activities that may or may not transpire, but as long as they are adults (18+ years old) and there of their own free will, so be it. I don't see how just being in a public area can be considered illegal.
It was just a way of making a point, I don't know if they were speaking of someone specifically or not but plenty or families have lost brothers,sisters,mom,dads and etc. People's outlook on things change after something horrible they thought would never happen does..and to them or someone close.

Being 18+ has no bearing whatsoever, street racing is illegal so you can't gather to watch it. How except able do you think it would be for a bunch of adults to gather to watch a dog fight, pretty much the same idea.


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People die every year watching legal, sanctioned, rally racing events around the world. They don't shut those events down because the people that line the sides of the course are there of their own free will and know full well what they are getting themselves into before they ever arrive. Not the same as illegal street racing obviously, but from the spectator's perspective the risk is the same and from the legal perspective only the people actually breaking the law by speeding should be held accountable.
When was the last time there was a rally race through the streets of Tampa? There are always dangers to going fast or being around fast motor sports. The point is when its done right the risk are minimized both for drivers and spectators.

I used to go to street races when I was a teenager, not safe nor setup with safety in mind. I saw lots of close calls and luckily didn't end up hurt or watch someone get hurt. How many of you honestly have ever seen a street race where you went "Wow, safety crew,closed roads, plenty of shut down and all the chance has been taken out, this looks safer then the track." Yea didn't think so.

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Could you just close your eyes and say, look officer, I am not watching anything!?!
Absolutely, it will work just as well as some other classics like "I didn't know I was going so fast officer". "I could have sworn the speed limit was 60 here". "I just really had to pee". The packaging doesn't change the message when the message is BS.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:39 AM
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Dont blame street racing for the accidents, blame the idiots who race without using their head and pull out in front of traffic to run from a dig. Thats light saying dont use a razorblade to cut out a stencil, someone might die if you slip and cut your throad, yet you dont see people banning the use of razor blades.

To me its like saying Guns dont kill people, people kill people.

Street racing doesnt cause accidents. People cause accidents.

If your seriously to stupid to know when its safe to run someone and when its dangerous then yes you dont belong out there. But if you run when NOBODY else is on the road infront OR behind and in the path of your travels. Then the only people you endanger is yourself and whoever else your racing.

If something were to happen to one of you two then you knew going in what the risk is.

And that would be like getting hurt at any other sport. If you were to go skydiving and your chute failed OR you werent experienced enough and messed up. And you hit the floor and splatter in a million bits. Is your loved one gonna say, *skydiving needs to stop it killed my husband!!*

No.

Get realistic, yes there are a handfull of street racing related accidents BUT IMO 80% of them are because the driver OR someone else involved was Impaired at the time which is his own damn fault.

If your gonna do something dangerous, then use comon sense and you will be fine. Dont race in the middle of traffic, dont stop for a dig when you have traffic coming up on your ass. Dont race towards people. And for gods sake Dont Race when your Drunk, High, on crack, or anythign else that can screw with your judgment.

Funny thing is (NOT SAYING YOU DO) half those people that complain about street racers causing accidents and how dangerous it is are the same people that drive home buzzed from a club that same weekend. Tell me im wrong!


Safety should be on everyones mind when doing something that can potentially hurt you or others, but then again we all just might wake up one morning slip on the bedside cause someone spilt a drink and crack our skull on the counter. Damn drinks near a nightstand should be illegal right?

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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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^ very true
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue92ludesi
Thats light saying dont use a razorblade to cut out a stencil, someone might die if you slip and cut your throad, yet you dont see people banning the use of razor blades.

To me its like saying Guns dont kill people, people kill people.

Street racing doesnt cause accidents. People cause accidents.


And that would be like getting hurt at any other sport. If you were to go skydiving and your chute failed OR you werent experienced enough and messed up. And you hit the floor and splatter in a million bits. Is your loved one gonna say, *skydiving needs to stop it killed my husband!!*

No.

Funny thing is (NOT SAYING YOU DO) half those people that complain about street racers causing accidents and how dangerous it is are the same people that drive home buzzed from a club that same weekend. Tell me im wrong!


Safety should be on everyones mind when doing something that can potentially hurt you or others, but then again we all just might wake up one morning slip on the bedside cause someone spilt a drink and crack our skull on the counter. Damn drinks near a nightstand should be illegal right?

/Vent
We get it other things are dangerous, but where are you really going with that anyway I don't anyone in here is feeling like that is a new revelation. The most dangerous things are the ones where get people killed and injured do get regulated just like street racing.

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Dont blame street racing for the accidents, blame the idiots who race without using their head and pull out in front of traffic to run from a dig.

If your seriously to stupid to know when its safe to run someone and when its dangerous then yes you don't belong out there. But if you run when NOBODY else is on the road infront OR behind and in the path of your travels. Then the only people you endanger is yourself and whoever else your racing.
So the people that are too stupid are just going to recognize they are tool bags and not race....or are they going to get on a message board and try and rationalize it? I think we all pretty much know the answer to that one.

99% of people feel like they are better drivers then 99% people on the road obviously this can't be really true. I would rather 100% of people realize the road is no place then racing then watch the 5% that can't get it through their heads wad up cars and bikes. If you want to race go to a place made for racing, its really that simple.

Originally Posted by Blue92ludesi
Get realistic, yes there are a handfull of street racing related accidents BUT IMO 80% of them are because the driver OR someone else involved was Impaired at the time which is his own damn fault.
I realize nearly 100% of statistics are made up on the spot with nearly no real evidence. But even you know that accidents happen mechanical problems happen, blow outs happen, wildlife in the road happens. The reason the street is so dangerous to race on is there is that much of a smaller room for error.

Let me see if this is a clearer way of saying this. 1% of street racing ends in a fatal accidents or "Sir, I regret to inform you (insert your loved one here) will not be coming home they were killed in a street racing accident". Which has more impact? Knowing that its rare but it does happen does not make you immune. Its not very likely that you will be shot, slip and break your neck, or get run over watching a street race. But when those things do happen they are tragic, and if it was avoidable foolishly tragic.

Originally Posted by Blue92ludesi
If your gonna do something dangerous, then use comon sense and you will be fine. Dont race in the middle of traffic, dont stop for a dig when you have traffic coming up on your ass. Dont race towards people. And for gods sake Dont Race when your Drunk, High, on crack, or anythign else that can screw with your judgment.

Funny thing is (NOT SAYING YOU DO) half those people that complain about street racers causing accidents and how dangerous it is are the same people that drive home buzzed from a club that same weekend. Tell me im wrong!

Safety should be on everyones mind when doing something that can potentially hurt you or others, but then again we all just might wake up one morning slip on the bedside cause someone spilt a drink and crack our skull on the counter. Damn drinks near a nightstand should be illegal right?

/Vent
Your not wrong at all, people do stupid ass things all the time, one more good reason I don't trust people drag racing on public roads. At least at the track if they wanna be high or drunk they have to be discreet about. The "street" scene there is no regulation on this. I'm not for making up laws about everything, life comes with sharp corners and every now and again someone is bound to poke an eye out. But there is no reason to go looking for problems racing on the street.
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