Profec E01 & E-Manage
I was just wounder if the Profec E01 is the upgrade to the emanage itself or what the difference is. The descriptions on the greddy page doesnt really say. It seems like the Prefoc E01 is the emange PLUS the LCD and boost controller ? is this correct ? Im a lil confused on it. Im using it on my 98 GSR i have the Greddy 18G turbo kit and a 9.1:1 Built B18C1, i was looking into electronics and the Greddy stuff is what i want but i cant understand the difference. any help would be great !!!
i gotta wire the injectors they dont plug in and i need to wire the 5th injector and harness and i need to manage the boost and fuel curves the stock ecu wont know what the hell is going on with the car, it wont idle it will surge and all that bs i need a fuel managment system and all that hoop-la so i can start it, actually the motor is still dry no fluids yet and im still waiting on the tranny to get here. So no starting yet lol. I was just woundering about the two systems what the difference if heard multiple explinations but still stumped on what to get !!!
this is the engine setup as is right now
this is a project between 2 young guys who have nothing better to waste money on !!!
98 B18C1
Ported and polished GS-R head
4 angle
Crower SS Valves
Crower Titanium Springs with lost motion dampners
Crower titanium retainers
Civic Type R cams
AEM cam gears
STR INtake mannifold
Block
JE 9.1:1 Low compression pistons
Crower Rods
Top line and Clevite Bearings
STR Block guard
Stock bore
microlathed GSR crank
Balanced Type R Flywheel
Turbo
Greddy Super 18G
Greddy Log Style Mannifold (ugly as fuck)
internal actuator (hate it)
greddy down pipe
greddy A pipe
Greddy Exhaust (forgot which one)
Greddy TYpe S BOV (not my choice)
Tranny
99 LS tranny with quafie LSD and type r final drive ( i think) not sure i didnt order it !!!! evan did
I think thats is so far !!
Waiting on electronics !!!!
this is the engine setup as is right now
this is a project between 2 young guys who have nothing better to waste money on !!!
98 B18C1
Ported and polished GS-R head
4 angle
Crower SS Valves
Crower Titanium Springs with lost motion dampners
Crower titanium retainers
Civic Type R cams
AEM cam gears
STR INtake mannifold
Block
JE 9.1:1 Low compression pistons
Crower Rods
Top line and Clevite Bearings
STR Block guard
Stock bore
microlathed GSR crank
Balanced Type R Flywheel
Turbo
Greddy Super 18G
Greddy Log Style Mannifold (ugly as fuck)
internal actuator (hate it)
greddy down pipe
greddy A pipe
Greddy Exhaust (forgot which one)
Greddy TYpe S BOV (not my choice)
Tranny
99 LS tranny with quafie LSD and type r final drive ( i think) not sure i didnt order it !!!! evan did
I think thats is so far !!
Waiting on electronics !!!!
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Originally posted by Spyderxl98z24
i gotta wire the injectors they dont plug in and i need to wire the 5th injector and harness and i need to manage the boost and fuel curves the stock ecu wont know what the hell is going on with the car, it wont idle it will surge and all that bs i need a fuel managment system and all that hoop-la so i can start it, actually the motor is still dry no fluids yet and im still waiting on the tranny to get here. So no starting yet lol. I was just woundering about the two systems what the difference if heard multiple explinations but still stumped on what to get !!!
this is the engine setup as is right now
this is a project between 2 young guys who have nothing better to waste money on !!!
98 B18C1
Ported and polished GS-R head
4 angle
Crower SS Valves
Crower Titanium Springs with lost motion dampners
Crower titanium retainers
Civic Type R cams
AEM cam gears
STR INtake mannifold
Block
JE 9.1:1 Low compression pistons
Crower Rods
Top line and Clevite Bearings
STR Block guard
Stock bore
microlathed GSR crank
Balanced Type R Flywheel
Turbo
Greddy Super 18G
Greddy Log Style Mannifold (ugly as fuck)
internal actuator (hate it)
greddy down pipe
greddy A pipe
Greddy Exhaust (forgot which one)
Greddy TYpe S BOV (not my choice)
Tranny
99 LS tranny with quafie LSD and type r final drive ( i think) not sure i didnt order it !!!! evan did
I think thats is so far !!
Waiting on electronics !!!!
i gotta wire the injectors they dont plug in and i need to wire the 5th injector and harness and i need to manage the boost and fuel curves the stock ecu wont know what the hell is going on with the car, it wont idle it will surge and all that bs i need a fuel managment system and all that hoop-la so i can start it, actually the motor is still dry no fluids yet and im still waiting on the tranny to get here. So no starting yet lol. I was just woundering about the two systems what the difference if heard multiple explinations but still stumped on what to get !!!
this is the engine setup as is right now
this is a project between 2 young guys who have nothing better to waste money on !!!
98 B18C1
Ported and polished GS-R head
4 angle
Crower SS Valves
Crower Titanium Springs with lost motion dampners
Crower titanium retainers
Civic Type R cams
AEM cam gears
STR INtake mannifold
Block
JE 9.1:1 Low compression pistons
Crower Rods
Top line and Clevite Bearings
STR Block guard
Stock bore
microlathed GSR crank
Balanced Type R Flywheel
Turbo
Greddy Super 18G
Greddy Log Style Mannifold (ugly as fuck)
internal actuator (hate it)
greddy down pipe
greddy A pipe
Greddy Exhaust (forgot which one)
Greddy TYpe S BOV (not my choice)
Tranny
99 LS tranny with quafie LSD and type r final drive ( i think) not sure i didnt order it !!!! evan did
I think thats is so far !!
Waiting on electronics !!!!
Ported and polished GS-R head
4 angle--- your turbo will not fill this head with air anyway...
Crower SS Valves--- crower valvtrain is known for fucking up hondas
Crower Titanium Springs with lost motion dampners--- crower valvtrain is known for fucking up hondas
Crower titanium retainers--- crower valvtrain is known for fucking up hondas
Civic Type R cams--- too much overlaping (i say GSR's are nice)
AEM cam gears
STR INtake mannifold--- again the turbo will not make enough CFM to fill that ITM
Block
JE 9.1:1 Low compression pistons--- weisco is MUCH better JE is known for melting (ask 99b16si) and not being sonsitant
Crower Rods--- NICE!!!
Top line and Clevite Bearings
STR Block guard--- sleeves should be listed here...
Stock bore--- with sleeves 84mm is the way to go
microlathed GSR crank --- ??? micropolished??? if so then have fun with the clearances
Balanced Type R Flywheel--- balanced??? you mean lightened??? go aluminum you will NEVER run steal again... trust me...
Turbo
Greddy Super 18G--- for this setup i REALLY like the t3/t04e makes nice power and nice spool and puts up a bit more CFM's
Greddy Log Style Mannifold (ugly as fuck)--- dont know what that is to be exact...
internal actuator (hate it)--- internal waste gate??? yeah they SUCK!!!
greddy down pipe--- what size???
greddy A pipe
Greddy Exhaust (forgot which one)
Greddy TYpe S BOV (not my choice)
basicly i think you could have spent your money more wisly... but im not being a dick... get her tuned and she will be fast!!! good luck...
-Keith
Dude i totally agree heres the deal with the car !!!
Evan 26 yr old spoiled no girlfriend engineer with too much money
Me 21 Mechanic wanted to modify a car and evans to stupid to do it
evan is stubbonr and wont listen, he likes name brands if they dont have a cool sticker he doesnt want them, i agree i would have went with alot more different shit like a Drag Turbo kit with a heliac style tuned runner turbo mannifold and a hybrid turbo as well, the valvetrain is gonna come apart but he doesnt listen and the cams are more for NA applications. BUT then again evan doesnt listen he reads what they put on the website !! and goes by what other people say and not by what the mechanics tell him !! I hope it wont come apart for his sake and the flywheel wsa the dumbest thing he did he said he was told you need alot of rotationla mass for the turbo butthen again hes stupid and doesnt listen to reason and he likes saying its type r. and it was balanced and not shaven he didnt wanna weaken it (i throw BS flag) But trust me when he sees its not what it could be he will kick himself in the ass im dealing with what i got to work with from him !! It will be more than he can handle he only ran a 16 in the gsr witj all the bolt ons !!
Evan 26 yr old spoiled no girlfriend engineer with too much money
Me 21 Mechanic wanted to modify a car and evans to stupid to do it
evan is stubbonr and wont listen, he likes name brands if they dont have a cool sticker he doesnt want them, i agree i would have went with alot more different shit like a Drag Turbo kit with a heliac style tuned runner turbo mannifold and a hybrid turbo as well, the valvetrain is gonna come apart but he doesnt listen and the cams are more for NA applications. BUT then again evan doesnt listen he reads what they put on the website !! and goes by what other people say and not by what the mechanics tell him !! I hope it wont come apart for his sake and the flywheel wsa the dumbest thing he did he said he was told you need alot of rotationla mass for the turbo butthen again hes stupid and doesnt listen to reason and he likes saying its type r. and it was balanced and not shaven he didnt wanna weaken it (i throw BS flag) But trust me when he sees its not what it could be he will kick himself in the ass im dealing with what i got to work with from him !! It will be more than he can handle he only ran a 16 in the gsr witj all the bolt ons !!
Profec E-01 will work by itself. Its a bad ass boost controller when used by itself. you can pair it up w/ the Emanage, which i may do... for like $350 ontop of the $300 for the Emanage. rather than spending $140 for the PC support tool and cable, then another $400 for half-way decent used laptop... the Profec E-01 comes w/ that LCD display and a remote control (not wireless) to control it. But when you use it w/ the Emanage, you can log up to several parameters and pull them up later to review the runs. you can save as much data as you want, as long as you buy the memory cards, but it comes w/ one card. It also allows real-time display of 3 parameters... me, id probably go with RPM, timing, and Wideband.
My friend is trying to tune the Profec E01 and its hard as shit, there are like 3 stages to tuning it and hes not having the greatest of luck with it... its very technical. and this guy is no retard either, hes the one person who actually found the way to wire an Emanage into an MA70 supra... which GReddy will tell you straightaway that it will NOT work w/ a 7MGTE or MA70 supra... yet he made it work.
The Profec is just a bad ass boost controller and very comprehensive, but when you use it w/ the Emanage, you can use it to actually tune all the values... its not as easy as using the lap top, but you can control every option just like the Laptop.
Keith is right... i woulda went w/ a Garrett-based turbo and not a Mitsu... the Mitsu's are limited on options and the little hybrid dealys that GREddy makes and wht not w/ 17c's, 18g's and 19c's are stupid... like the 16g is an upgraded 14b... just a bigger compressor wheel in a 14b turbo w/ the compressor housing bored out. the Big 16g is bored out even more cuz the wheel is a tiny bit bigger on the Inducer side and alot bigger on the exducer side as the STD 16g. then theres the 17c, which is just the wheel. which is actually used in the 18g turbo. the 17c inducer is only like 8 thousands of an inch larter than the big 16g inducer... the Exducer of the 17c is exactly the same as the big 16g @ 2.680". they make you THINK You are buying a bigger turbo, but you arent... youre basically getting a Big 16g w/ a larger turbine housing. If its the mitsu turbine housing, its an 8cm w/ a standard TDO5 turbine wheel, which is EXACTLY the same thing in 20g, 16g, 14b and FP stage1 Frankenstein turbos.. its not cuz they are being cheap bastards... its just that Mitsu doesnt have a large variety of options to build turbos from... not like Garrett-style turbos.
its cool, i wouldnt run over 20 psi on pump gass though. More than 20 psi, and your Airflow plateus and your compressor outlet discharge temps go up... itll fly... ill make sure i bone up my supra before pullin up to you
My friend is trying to tune the Profec E01 and its hard as shit, there are like 3 stages to tuning it and hes not having the greatest of luck with it... its very technical. and this guy is no retard either, hes the one person who actually found the way to wire an Emanage into an MA70 supra... which GReddy will tell you straightaway that it will NOT work w/ a 7MGTE or MA70 supra... yet he made it work.
The Profec is just a bad ass boost controller and very comprehensive, but when you use it w/ the Emanage, you can use it to actually tune all the values... its not as easy as using the lap top, but you can control every option just like the Laptop.
Keith is right... i woulda went w/ a Garrett-based turbo and not a Mitsu... the Mitsu's are limited on options and the little hybrid dealys that GREddy makes and wht not w/ 17c's, 18g's and 19c's are stupid... like the 16g is an upgraded 14b... just a bigger compressor wheel in a 14b turbo w/ the compressor housing bored out. the Big 16g is bored out even more cuz the wheel is a tiny bit bigger on the Inducer side and alot bigger on the exducer side as the STD 16g. then theres the 17c, which is just the wheel. which is actually used in the 18g turbo. the 17c inducer is only like 8 thousands of an inch larter than the big 16g inducer... the Exducer of the 17c is exactly the same as the big 16g @ 2.680". they make you THINK You are buying a bigger turbo, but you arent... youre basically getting a Big 16g w/ a larger turbine housing. If its the mitsu turbine housing, its an 8cm w/ a standard TDO5 turbine wheel, which is EXACTLY the same thing in 20g, 16g, 14b and FP stage1 Frankenstein turbos.. its not cuz they are being cheap bastards... its just that Mitsu doesnt have a large variety of options to build turbos from... not like Garrett-style turbos.
its cool, i wouldnt run over 20 psi on pump gass though. More than 20 psi, and your Airflow plateus and your compressor outlet discharge temps go up... itll fly... ill make sure i bone up my supra before pullin up to you
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