General Car Chat Talk about cars in general. All makes and models - strictly car discussion.

this thread will be 1 billion pages (imports vs domestics)

Thread Tools
 
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:26 PM
  #1 (permalink)  
hachibill's Avatar
Thread Starter
yea sweet lemonade
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
Default this thread will be 1 billion pages (imports vs domestics)

ok since the other thread got lizzocked dizzown. i say we start a new one.
lets list the reason's why imports are better than domestics or vise versa. but try and keep it civil. even though it can get heated. i thinkits good to have a nice clean argument every once in a while. so it begins.



my .02 is that american cars are poorly desighned and even worse in their execution. just look at where most are built to help save money,........mexico. and look where the japanese build their cars when they want to save money.......here in the us. you know what this makes us to the japanese, mexicans. japanses cars are a minimum of 10 to 15 years in front of the americans in design and execution. if you think differntly say soo, but have some facts to back up your statements.

remeber its all in good fun.
__________________
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:30 PM
  #2 (permalink)  
Duceanahalf's Avatar
is doing your girlfriend
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,101
Likes: 0
Default

American car companies build in Canada and Mexico to save money due to the UAW union. GM, and Ford are paying hugh retirements to thousands of employees, not to mention the pay of current employees. japanese manufacturers who build in the US get around this since they are in southern states that have much weaker unions then northern states such as Michigan
__________________


Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:33 PM
  #3 (permalink)  
hachibill's Avatar
Thread Starter
yea sweet lemonade
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
Default

see but that just kinda proves my point.
__________________
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:38 PM
  #4 (permalink)  
Lincoln's Avatar
I’m bored entertain me.
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,093
Likes: 0
Default

I thought it was funny when I bought a bunch of new C5 brakes parts from the dealership and every box said Made in Australia. I guess the Vette is the Australian sports car that is assembled in America.

I helped a friend install a new crate engine from GM and the crate and all the paper work said Made in Mexico.

I have a Pontiac and a Nissan. I will say the Nissan is built better, but when you start modifying the cars it is a lot cheaper to upgrade the American car.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:42 PM
  #6 (permalink)  
Duceanahalf's Avatar
is doing your girlfriend
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,101
Likes: 0
Default

The American economy cars tend to be worse than japanese cars. i think that has something to do with the fact that America has only been really producing them for about 30 years, where as Japan has been making small affordable, reliable cars for closer to 50 years.

Prior to the gas crisis in the late 70s American companies either built big reliable family cars, or sports cars like the Corvette and the Thunderbird.

Not all american cars are poorly built and unreliable junk heaps. My car has 113,000 hard miles and besides regular maintaince, im only running about $100 a year in repair bills. Mine is actually not very high milage compared to other cars like it. It is not uncommon for them to go 200, 300 even 400,000 miles on the original engine.
__________________


Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:48 PM
  #7 (permalink)  
hachibill's Avatar
Thread Starter
yea sweet lemonade
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
Default

very well put. but even the japanese sports cars have more design in them if you ask me, but the american 's always say if it ain't broke don't fix it.
__________________
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:53 PM
  #8 (permalink)  
Duceanahalf's Avatar
is doing your girlfriend
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,101
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by hachibill
very well put. but even the japanese sports cars have more design in them if you ask me, but the american 's always say if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Most american performance motors/designs date back to the 50s and 60s, some older some newer, but most are from around that time. The designs are simple tried and true.
__________________


Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:54 PM
  #9 (permalink)  
hachibill's Avatar
Thread Starter
yea sweet lemonade
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
Default

but the simple fact is that the corvette still has leaf springs and pushrods. lol yeah it works, but there is better.
__________________
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:51 AM.