great thread. If anyone says there are no reliable 4 cylinder turbos with 400 hp, or any that run 12's they are sheltered and need to cough up some dough. In the battle of import vs. domestic the Japanese is superior as proven by the market there is no discussion for that because they dominate sales. Although I do wish my car was made in the USA for support of my country it isnt, I hope one day we get our shit together. I like inline four cylinders that is my cup of tea. In comparison to any domestic 4 my 15 year old jap junk is still more advanced than any current domestic 4. IMO prove me wrong.

 

One word for this "This car is made here, boo hoo!"

Globalization.

Also, 400HP 4-cylinders will not run as long as 400HP v8s with similar parts for obvious reasons (more stress being the most obvious, there is no replacement for displacement in the end. Put the same type of part on each engine and the larger engine will make more power.) They also won't run for 200k miles, unless they're something supercarish, and even then probably not.

Oh, and your junk heap isn't more advanced than shit...its just built for performance, DUH!

 

I think the only American car of recent that has sparked interest in me is the Saturn Sky. I like the SRT-4 as well.

 

Japanese companys build better bottom line cars hands down. I owned an old honda accord and loved it eveything worked, It had freakin powerwindows! Then I "upgraded" to a pontiac Sunfire. Worst car in the world. To change the oil you had to have a double jointed are to change the oil filter. 90's fords, pretty much stuck with well its par best not try and make it better. Plus GM's all look the same!!!

 

Actually, its Ford/Lincoln/Mercury that got in trouble for all looking the same. There's a great story, the execs of the company were having a meeting way back when, and it was storming out, and the valets couldn't tell who'se car was whos because they all looked the same.

But you're right, Japaneese do build better bottom end car ENGINES, but not the cars themselves, thats probably about equal.

 

you are talking about a Pontiac Sunfire. In the last 20 years Pontiac has only had one good car and that was the Firebird.

 

whats so advance on these 240s that make them 15years ahead of american cars?

 

 

Nothing, he just wants to be an asshole to start debate

 

s13 nissan(89-93)240s interior are still advanced way more than american car interiors... 17yrs old...

thats just to start


_Jason