Know anything about color profiles?
Still not sure exactly when you are getting a color change, or what the colors are doing. Are they desaturaing? Try using monitor rgb in photoshops display settings.
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I'm trying to avoid having to convert to anything, I'd like to just be able to load the image, edit it, and save it without any changes. In this pic I have everything set to sRGB and I'm still getting a color shift:
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"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson

"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson
I did a little experiment to see on what steps the color is changing and by how much.
The Setup:
I got some paint color swatches from walmart and stuck them to my fridge
then I put my D90 on a tripod and set everything to manual so nothing would change between the shots, white balance = fluorescent, f/stop = 7.1, shutter speed = 1/3, iso 200, picture control = standard
I then took 4 photos, RAW-AdobeRGB, RAW-sRGB, JPEG-AdobeRGB, and JPEG-sRGB
The Test: (only tested JPEG-sRGB as of now)
I used Paint.net, which is a free editing program that doesn't use custom color profiles to copy screen prints from all the steps I take from upload to save and see where the color shifts take place and by how much.
First I opened the JPEG-sRGB in Paint.net(PDN) as my "control", then I previewed the same photo in Nikon's ViewNX, took a screen print and added it to a new layer in PDN, then I opened it in Photoshop CS3 and again took a screen print, and lastly I saved the file and opened it in Firefox and took a final screen print.
So now I have 4 layers in PDN: original, viewnx , photoshop, firefox
After comparing the colors in each layer I can see that original and firefox are a match and viewnx and photoshop are a match but both sets differ from each other. So basically:
original vs. viewnx = change
viewnx vs. photoshop = doesn't change
photoshop vs. firefox = change
-but-
original vs. firefox = doesn't change

So it seems that viewnx and photoshop are using a different color profile then my computer/screen and firefox, right?
I went and double checked and here are the profiles everything is set to:
Camera = sRGB
Nikon Transfer = Imbed ICC profile during transer
ViewNx = Use imbedded profile
Photoshop = sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Firefox = ?
Sorry for the long write up, I hope someone can help me figure this out.
The Setup:
I got some paint color swatches from walmart and stuck them to my fridge
then I put my D90 on a tripod and set everything to manual so nothing would change between the shots, white balance = fluorescent, f/stop = 7.1, shutter speed = 1/3, iso 200, picture control = standard
I then took 4 photos, RAW-AdobeRGB, RAW-sRGB, JPEG-AdobeRGB, and JPEG-sRGB
The Test: (only tested JPEG-sRGB as of now)
I used Paint.net, which is a free editing program that doesn't use custom color profiles to copy screen prints from all the steps I take from upload to save and see where the color shifts take place and by how much.
First I opened the JPEG-sRGB in Paint.net(PDN) as my "control", then I previewed the same photo in Nikon's ViewNX, took a screen print and added it to a new layer in PDN, then I opened it in Photoshop CS3 and again took a screen print, and lastly I saved the file and opened it in Firefox and took a final screen print.
So now I have 4 layers in PDN: original, viewnx , photoshop, firefox
After comparing the colors in each layer I can see that original and firefox are a match and viewnx and photoshop are a match but both sets differ from each other. So basically:
original vs. viewnx = change
viewnx vs. photoshop = doesn't change
photoshop vs. firefox = change
-but-
original vs. firefox = doesn't change

So it seems that viewnx and photoshop are using a different color profile then my computer/screen and firefox, right?
I went and double checked and here are the profiles everything is set to:
Camera = sRGB
Nikon Transfer = Imbed ICC profile during transer
ViewNx = Use imbedded profile
Photoshop = sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Firefox = ?
Sorry for the long write up, I hope someone can help me figure this out.
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"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson

"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson
Here ya go:
JPEG-sRGB Standard on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
But I think I've narrowed the problem down to Firefox not supporting ICC profiles higher then version 2, I have previewed the same images in Safari which does have support for ICC profiles higher then v.2 and there is no color shift. So I guess either I will have to wait till Firefox supports v.4 ICC or find out why photoshop is using v.4 and change it to v.2.
Here is a forum post that I got alot of help on so far in case you want to see exactly whats going on: I can't get my saved images to match my edited images. - Photo.net Digital Darkroom Forum
JPEG-sRGB Standard on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
But I think I've narrowed the problem down to Firefox not supporting ICC profiles higher then version 2, I have previewed the same images in Safari which does have support for ICC profiles higher then v.2 and there is no color shift. So I guess either I will have to wait till Firefox supports v.4 ICC or find out why photoshop is using v.4 and change it to v.2.
Here is a forum post that I got alot of help on so far in case you want to see exactly whats going on: I can't get my saved images to match my edited images. - Photo.net Digital Darkroom Forum
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"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson

"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson
Cool. I had a feeling it was something to do with browsers not supporting color profiles as they should. Glad you got it figured out.
In the end though, when you counter in the varying quality (and even brightness) of monitors across your viewing audience... it probably doesn't matter too much. Have you had a chance to print anything and see how it compares yet?
In the end though, when you counter in the varying quality (and even brightness) of monitors across your viewing audience... it probably doesn't matter too much. Have you had a chance to print anything and see how it compares yet?
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Not yet, do you have any suggestions for where to get some that aren't too pricey?
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"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson

"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson
Here ya go:
JPEG-sRGB Standard on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
But I think I've narrowed the problem down to Firefox not supporting ICC profiles higher then version 2, I have previewed the same images in Safari which does have support for ICC profiles higher then v.2 and there is no color shift. So I guess either I will have to wait till Firefox supports v.4 ICC or find out why photoshop is using v.4 and change it to v.2.
Here is a forum post that I got alot of help on so far in case you want to see exactly whats going on: I can't get my saved images to match my edited images. - Photo.net Digital Darkroom Forum
JPEG-sRGB Standard on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
But I think I've narrowed the problem down to Firefox not supporting ICC profiles higher then version 2, I have previewed the same images in Safari which does have support for ICC profiles higher then v.2 and there is no color shift. So I guess either I will have to wait till Firefox supports v.4 ICC or find out why photoshop is using v.4 and change it to v.2.
Here is a forum post that I got alot of help on so far in case you want to see exactly whats going on: I can't get my saved images to match my edited images. - Photo.net Digital Darkroom Forum
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I think Safari is the only browser atm that supports it but I'm not 100% sure.
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"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson

"Thirty-six satisfactory exposures on a roll means a
photographer is not trying anything new." - Freeman Patterson


