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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Let's say I had an enormous supply of Ferrari's Rosso Corsa paint. I don't mean the kind that you get when you go to a paint shop and they generate the paint by the color code (because that is never exactly the same due to the variables in the paint brand used). Instead, I mean the actual paint directly from the manufacturer.

Now let's say I decide to open a dealership selling nothing but cars painted with that paint. Could I sell the cars with Ferrari's Rosso Corsa (and its exact paint code) if I called it something else, like say 'Ilida Tamale'?
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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I am curious as to your rhetorical question here... Did you buy out Ferrari? LOL

Why would you want to do that though?
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ilida
Let's say I had an enormous supply of Ferrari's Rosso Corsa paint. I don't mean the kind that you get when you go to a paint shop and they generate the paint by the color code (because that is never exactly the same due to the variables in the paint brand used). Instead, I mean the actual paint directly from the manufacturer.

Now let's say I decide to open a dealership selling nothing but cars painted with that paint. Could I sell the cars with Ferrari's Rosso Corsa (and its exact paint code) if I called it something else, like say 'Ilida Tamale'?
I highly doubt ferrari mixes up their own paint, its ppg, dupont, something, supplied to them.

Who cares where it came from, if you bought paint you really think someone is going to stop you from putting it on a car ???

Is this a real question ?
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Blue
I am curious as to your rhetorical question here... Did you buy out Ferrari? LOL

Why would you want to do that though?
I didn't buy out Ferrari, obviously.

Let's say if I wanted to really do it, I'd want to do it for personal reasons. It doesn't really matter why.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28ricer
I highly doubt ferrari mixes up their own paint, its ppg, dupont, something, supplied to them.

Who cares where it came from, if you bought paint you really think someone is going to stop you from putting it on a car ???

Is this a real question ?
Ferrari does not produce their paint. The patented pigments which are used in the paint are manufactured by an Indian company. I believe Glasurit is Ferrari's paint manufacturer which makes use of these patented pigments, but I could be wrong. Rosso Corsa is actually just the color representing Italian auto racing. Ferrari ended up tweeking this color to their liking, which has now famously been named as the layman's 'Ferrari Red(s).' I say reds because there are many versions of this so called 'Ferrari Red', fyi.

So my question didn't regard me putting the paint on cars and whether someone would stop me, the question was about me reselling an exact version of Ferrari's red paint manufactured by Glasurit, just under a different name. So is the question real? Yes, any question is a real question.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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^ is right,Ferrari uses Glasurit,Lamborgini uses PPG
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 351coupe
^ is right,Ferrari uses Glasurit,Lamborgini uses PPG
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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well if the pigments and paint are under a patent then you would not be able to sell it under a different name anyways, I think, that is basically what a patent is for, so that no one can copy your stuff.
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_kustoms
well if the pigments and paint are under a patent then you would not be able to sell it under a different name anyways, I think, that is basically what a patent is for, so that no one can copy your stuff.
Yes. However, he is not selling the paint. He is selling a car painted that color.

From a legal stand point you would be fine as long as you are not charging specifically for it to be that color.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_kustoms
well if the pigments and paint are under a patent then you would not be able to sell it under a different name anyways, I think, that is basically what a patent is for, so that no one can copy your stuff.

I don't think you can patent color codes, only color names. Pigments are patented but are used to make up the color that is part of a color code. You aren't reselling the same exact thing (pigment) under another name, you're just using it for another product (paint). If I got some of BMW's yellow M3 color, I wouldn't be able to sell it under its name "Dakar Yellow." So I'm wondering if I changed the name if I could sell it then.
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