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Old 02-05-2009, 05:06 PM
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its a unibody, it doesnt matter
Old 02-05-2009, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RB240Mike
its a unibody, it doesnt matter

Thats exactly the problem, unibody means that the stamped sheetmetal formed into frame rails is also the same sheetmetal that comprises the body, there is no FRAME, which is why unibody cars benefit from things like chassis braces, subframe connectors, etc.

Apparently unibody has switched from being weaker and flexible, to hydroformed unobtainium alloy.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:29 PM
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Well lets see who puts on these braces your talking about.... No one, so that pretty much means they are useless. If you want a more rigid car put a cage in it, If not then you dont need to worry about it.

Mustangs and f bodys use them thanks to there solid axles which twist the car under load. 240's IRS dosnt have the same problem. Anyone with coil-overs might notice the fact that the car will come off the ground almost instantly if taking an incline at an angle. If the car has so much flex that would be a problem.

If you want to reinforce anything do fender braces, thats the biggest weak spot of the car.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by longfellow2
Well lets see who puts on these braces your talking about.... No one, so that pretty much means they are useless. If you want a more rigid car put a cage in it, If not then you dont need to worry about it.

Mustangs and f bodys use them thanks to there solid axles which twist the car under load. 240's IRS dosnt have the same problem. Anyone with coil-overs might notice the fact that the car will come off the ground almost instantly if taking an incline at an angle. If the car has so much flex that would be a problem.

If you want to reinforce anything do fender braces, thats the biggest weak spot of the car.
The drivetrain layout isnt even close to why they are used. Fab an IRS into an F body, or take a newer cobra with its IRS, and its still going to benefit from subframe connectors. It is to eliminate body flex, for better cornering, braking, and making the vehicle more consistent when launching. 240's are unibody, and can benefit from chassis bracing, if you arent driving hard enough to be able to benefit from them, thats fine, but dont go stating they are useless.
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Originally Posted by osama tim laden
full on track cars can take a lot more liberties with shit than a street car. bell bottom kits and crazy wheel fitment look cool sliding on a track, but when i want to drive to taco bus, im going to ruin all of that shit. so it just doesnt work for me. function over fashion.
Originally Posted by osama tim laden
also, im about to blow my moderator status by deleteing all of davids posts
R.I.P. Tim

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Old 02-06-2009, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by presidential
Exactly what I was going to post.

Did 2 "H" braces out of tubular round stock from the subframe to the body pinch with a piece of 1/8" flat stock along the whole way and it made a huge improvement. IMO, anyone with a S13 vert should copy this as their first modification period.
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