Originally Posted by Cliff Money

I dont see what the big deal is about them though. I mean they are awesome cars, but everyone says its impossible to hack the ecu and make more power so ppl are going to get really bored with it i think. And so what it has 490whp, it would still lose to high horsepower sr's, kat's, rb's and ls1 swapped s-chassis. From a roll that is lol. That power to wait ratio its whats going to kill it. Now thats just my personal opinion and logic so please no one get your panties in a bunch and start bashing me for what i just said lol

Originally Posted by Steez

ECU has been cracked by several companies. There are also plenty of parts for sale for the car already.

Originally Posted by 2 Small Snails

It gets its dignity from the track, not from the skreetz. Put those KA-T, SR20s, and LS1 swapped S-chassis on a track with there 1,000$ ebay coilovers and see what happens. Doubt any of the cars you just mentioned would even run the Nurburgring in less than 9 minutes.

Originally Posted by Cliff Money

Your most likely right about the track thing. But at the same time how many s-chassis do you see out there on the nurburgring? What im saying is if your driving along in your new gtr and a 450+hp sr or ka-t or what have you, cruises up next to you on the causeway, i think the gtr would have some problems. AND i think the new zr1 vette is gonna give it some problems as well. Just my 2 cents thats all

Originally Posted by 2 Small Snails

Base price gap, anyone?

Quality, anyone?

lol. The GT-R is better built and cheaper. Of course right now the demand is high but the base price is what 70,000$? What's a 70,000$ sports car to put it up against. Name one of those thats running the ole Nur in a faster time. You wont find one . ZR1 is a supercar, GT-R ISNT! It's just a v6 ffs.

Originally Posted by Jordan T

ZR1 is superior.

If i had the money i'd just wait for the V-spec.