Thats horseshit, GTM has built several DE's making in excess of 700whp (probably would cost cheaper (since you would already have the VQ in the car) then all the fab time + labor + swap + custom parts + swap labor + aftermarket 2jz parts ....e.t.c). For proof ... 1800whp DE 1800whp VQ35DE - 350Z-TECH FORUMS . I remmber back about 7-9 years ago.. it was almost a fact that stock 2jz's couldn't handle over 550whp (lots of people have blew them up at these powerlevels ... mostly due to shitty tuning). This isn't the only VQ car running at these power levels. All this is was done with the old VQ platform, nobody knows yet what the HR's are capable of. If i was going to swap any engine in my car aside from the VQ it would be a LSX series V8 (Which has already been done). DE's with stock bottom ends can't handle much boost, and need to be sleeved beyond a certain point. But they are nowhere near impotent.

Fab work done here was awesome, exhaust looks great, and I'am suprised you guys got all the factory gauges to interact with the 2J ECU, everything (aside from the obvious aftermarket upgrades) looks OEM. Nice work.

 

Shit have you ever drive a supra! They handle great too.

 

the VQ motor will make big power...no doubt...but the extremeracecars setup is one very few people can afford.

the 2jz longblock will make 700-800whp w/ stock bottom end...so its all about the power level and complexity of the build.

for a car like this...a 2jz swap works well...especially for the price.

 

they handle road course good, but not autocross good lol. they are fine handling cars, esp at greater speeds. i personally don't like them because they are large and they feel large (but thats just opinion because i'm used to and prefer nimbler feeling cars - which tend to be smaller).




project so far looks good. 12's at 130mph? LOL i'm sure you'll get that alot.

 

i never drove a mk4 supra but sc300 handles really well for its size..

 

EludeR

Let me clarify your post.

Any motor will make any amount of HP given enough $. That is a fact written in stone. How do you think ECOTEC pos cavalier motors make 1500 hp + ?
Don't compare apples to oranges.

I have built both 2J's and VQ's
The VQ motor is not a good starting point, no matter how you look at it. It is OPEN DECK !!!! This means at the very minimum, to cross 600 rwhp reliably, not only does it need pistons and rods but a block sleeve. I don't know if you checked into how much some of the built VQ guys are spending on their setups, but the last VQ motor I built for a VQ guy ended up costing him $12,000 just for a longblock with very minor headwork. The VQ market is ridiculously expensive and everyone that is in it charges tons of $$. Hell I charge $3000 just for assembly w/o parts or any machine work.
This is why one of our swaps that starts at $15K is so much more worth it.
By the time the above mentioned customer was done and tuned, he was in for about $26K total in parts / labor and services.
Yes he can make 1000 + rwhp... but I have tuned stock bottom ended 2JZ's into the 900 rwhp range a lot more than any built VQ has seen anything close of that.


GTM might have tune 3000 hp out of their motor... but the resemblance of their motor to a even well built VQ is like saying that the Infinity IRL V8 VH45s motors are similar to the ones you find in an Infinity Q45..... Sorry they are worlds apart.

Not to keep bashing you post but... the HR motors are shit. They are lemons.
Look at

For all 2006 Owners With Oil Consumption Problems - MY350Z.COM Forums

That thread is 96 pages long !!!!!!! The motors are made defectively and they eat oil.

On a lighter note...thanks for the props. The exhaust was very difficult to make.



Martin
XAT Racing

 

turn your pages to Hymn 5: And Martin has Spoken; Let us bow our heads.

 

Hahaha Nice! Rep for making me laugh on a Monday morning.

 

Martin,

It cannot be by any means cheap to have a 2jz swapped into a Z33, as well as having it upgraded extensively. Either way, you are going to have to pay to play. Honda engines are open deck... and they have proven themselves time and time again. Why anyone would want over 600+rwhp is beyond me (I would like to have a somewhat controlable car). By the way, the thread you where referring to was not for HR (07+) engines .... It was for the DE Rev up engines (very different engines). After 9k miles I have not had a drop of oil consumed, or a single issue.(For a bit of history... the first smallblock V8's to roll out the assmebly line had oil consumption issues ...this continued with the introduction of the first lt1's ... and with the introduction of the ls1.... and look at how shitty they have turned out.) Like I said before... If i had to swap in a non-oem engine it would be a LSX v8. Everyone is entitled to their own opininion and can do what they want with their car/money.

Regardless, nice work.

 

Martin you are GOD...