I dont know why he would have put the starion motor in it. You can put the 4g63 motor in the mighty max pickup. Eric Plebani has an AWD one he built. I am not sure how much work is involved. I almost picked a mighty max up at the auction this weekend but it was automatic

 

would there be any way to drop a 4g63 in it and have it RWD? like possibly using a toyota tranny or something?

 

i knew about the starion setup with using moddified toyota bell housing, but didnt know if the same setup could be used on that, or if one was even made for it, i would think itd be a pain to do the electrical and relocating motor mounts

 

 

Jasons got a WWD Talon

 

lol i prolly should ask, how hard was yours jason? im not gunna build one, but i was just curious.

 

ok, this is going to be a long post.

in the conquest I had about 6 months invested in initial buildup. could have been done much faster if I had more money.

I was full time college at the time.

everything you really need to know about it is on my site. I think I documented everything fairly well (aside from the crappy pictures).

http://www.geocities.com/piercedjd/4G63Conquest.html

the wiring is easy.

in a 4g64 equiped mighty max the 4g63 swap would be EXTREMELY easy compared to my conquest, but the trannies are still suspect.

a 4g63 WILL NOT bolt up to a conquest/starion transmission. the conquest/starion bolt pattern is wider. the engine is wider. they use many different components.

getting the might max transmission to work would be easy enough, and if you are blessed you will have lots of traction problems, or if you bolt a slick on you will have lots of tranny problems. take your pick.

I used the toyota tranny because it's a proven setup. there are a lot of Puerto Rican racers using that transmission to good success, and yes they break ( nothing is bulletproof) but it is much more durable than either the mighty max or conquest/starion transmissions.

if anyone was really interested and had the money to spend I could tell you how to make a rwd 6 speed (either the tremec or getrag(non-3kgt) boxes) work with a 4g63. The tranny will run you about 1500-2000 from a junkyard however (unless you find a deal) and you will have to have the bellhousing modified and use a custom clutch disc and clutch master/slave setup though.

small potatoes if you wanna have your cake and eat it too.

rear end selection and gear ratios is also another consideration.

you can change that now, as opposed to an awd or fwd dsm. it's the best way ( if you like the overall split of your gearing) to make your gears longer or shorter.

you will also need to use a larger radiator. I tried several different radiator setups, before finding one which almost doubled the capacity of a stock dsm radiator. when changing the engine orientation in the engine bay you are also changing the flow of air accross the block (obviously) and it will affect cooling of the motor.

is it a worthwhile swap? depends on what you want.

a sleepy daily driver that is practical and pulls decent numbers at the track? I see people attempting to build those all day long so yeah, I'd say it's a very worthwhile swap. in fact I am utterly surprised there aren't very many 4g63 D50/Mighty Maxes running around.

I have seen the G54B swapped mighty maxes before, but frankly that motor is a dog. it can't make the power or the revs to be effective in anything (IMO).

I have talked to the guys (I forget their names) with the red and silver 2.6 turbo drag car ( full fiberglass body/tube frame etc. ) and they even said if they didn't have so much time invested in the 2.6 they would have gone with the 4g63.

they are using a standalone multi port injection system with direct port nitrous and a big fat juicy garret and running in the 8's when it's running good ( and reportedly dipping into the 7's).

Impressive, but they spent a lot of time and money *adding* onto that motor tools which are already present on the 4g63 (minus of course displacement, which can be a limiting factor as far as rev range vs. gearing which is a constant battle).

another consideration ( and again I have to wonder, ESPECIALLY in the light of all the recent 4g64/4g63 hybrid talk going on) is putting one of those combinations into the truck.


anything is possible, what I found is that it mainly boils down to how much cash you have. rich mans game, which is why the conquest left.

 

yea, always comes down to money, if ya got it, anything is possible.