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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by F4A22
Try fwd and auto. 90-91 Laser's never came awd.I'm on stock timing and a old school hahn super sidemount also.I'm happy with the car as it is just have a goal to accomplish.
Oh for some reason I was thinking it was a AWD..
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_Bullet
Cluttered engine bay = fail also.

Is he still tuning with a s-gay-fc or has he moved onto dsmlink ?
If so tell em Ill help him tune.

If your talking about my engine bay your more then welcome to help me take more stuff out....
Slowy is still on the gay-FC, I don't think dsmlink is on his list anytime soon, I think cams may be next followed by alky
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_Bullet
Umm you dont need to spend 20 + thousand dollars to have a fast car
when a AWD dsm is just as capable .... Hell maybe even more capable when you factor in the cost difference and how much more money you'd have to focas on mods than payments.
Not to mention a 1g is much lighter...
Your talking to someone who has had 13 turbo dsms. Nowadays bang for the buck the evo is the way to go as far as durability bolt ons to bolt ons.Dsms break to easy unless you invest in the tranny/bottom end.Dsm trannies suck plain and simple i have blown out a few over the years thats why i prefer auto.I should introduce myself to you guys since pretty much everone else with a dsm knows me.....
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by F4A22
Your talking to someone who has had 13 turbo dsms. Nowadays bang for the buck the evo is the way to go as far as durability bolt ons to bolt ons.Dsms break to easy unless you invest in the tranny/bottom end.Dsm trannies suck plain and simple i have blown out a few over the years thats why i prefer auto.I should introduce myself to you guys since pretty much everone else with a dsm knows me.....
Ha wow 13. Your crazy.

Dsms are just old, when maintained and built right they dont break down like everyone says.
Evos will start destroying parts when pushed hard too, they arent exempt just because there newer. AWD and hard launching with a lot of power = broken parts.

My point was, buy a Evo and spend over 20k then drop X amount into mods to get x amount of power/speed.

Or buy a Dsm for less than 3 grand and you have at least a 17 thousand dollar difference in that scenerio just right there just in cost differences. Someone should have a lot more money to play with to build whatever they want for the dsm in that case.
Someone who knows what there doing can fix and make a awd dsm go high 11s for under 5 grand on stock block and only a 14b or 16g for crying out loud.

Now, dont get me wrong, Evos are Evos and newer and nicer etc.

Btw, the dsm bottom end has proven itself worthy of handling well over 500awhp. Id say you could get 400-450awhp out of it reliably with a good tune and not have to sweat at night. YMMV

But you know all this, youve owned 11 more DSMs than I have...
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Even if your DSM does break shit, the cost of fixing it and moving on will be nowhere near the price of an EVO
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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I'm pretty sure Jordan Y was in the mid 12's on a 14b in his 1G AWD
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_Bullet
Cluttered engine bay = fail also.

Is he still tuning with a s-gay-fc or has he moved onto dsmlink ?
If so tell em Ill help him tune.
still runnin the afc, haven't got a datalogger yet, i'm just driving it.

been runnin 9lbs on it for the past 2 months and i have the silencer in.
cams are on the list, but alky is not on the list.

i dont know if it would be wise to run cams with an afc, but damn dsmlink is like $400-$500 last time i looked.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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your 1/4 time is sooooo outdated !!! we need to get it back out to the track
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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yeah it is, its like 3 years old
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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well if your clutch does'nt shatter on your first pass deep 12's should be possible with the new turbo
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