yea, that does suck bro. sorry to hear about your luck..

 

Um yeah, I think how often you "get on it", as well as maintenance, can play a factor in how long your car will last/run properly. Now, I know every car has its quirks and some cars are just straight up lemons. But I do think babying the car does make a difference. Making sure you select your gears properly, versus just banging them in through the gates, may be the difference between your tranny shifting for a good while longer, or busting up your synchros or fork.

I will agree though, that age and mileage plays a big role. But to me, it sounds like he got pretty agressive with his transmission the other day. Now, I can't guarantee that his tranny wouldn't of f'ed up...but I'm pretty confident that had he drove his car normally, his tranny would still be fine right now. But who knows, if he had banged through the gears, say a week later, it may of busted then. Unfortunately, I wasn't there, so I don't know what happened...just painting a picture with the info that's been posted thus far.

I have to say, that really does suck that the thing was rebuilt recently and it's having problems already. Were the forks replaced? I'm assuming aluminum forks we used, if they were replaced. Steel forks would hold up much better, but even those can break I suppose. Again, I wasn't there in person, but I'd have to assume that you had to of smash through the gear pretty hard, to bust a rebuilt transmission. If the same forks were put back in during the rebuild though, then I could see it breaking I guess.

And in regards to me racing....yeah, I get on it once in a while, but not nearly as often as I used to. Still though, I don't do crazy ass 5k-7k launches or try and force my gears to go in. I don't push my car past the redline area either. Even then, I still have small problems with the car here and there, but I don't have the constant breakdowns (knock on wood), that some of the other owners out there do. My car's getting old too (97 model). Running a crankwalking motor unfortunately, but it's still going strong. Still on the stock T-too small and stock tranny (just an upgraded clutch). Anyways, proper maintenance does wonders, lol. Probably the only reason my crank hasn't walked off entirely yet.

 

i think the point is getting missed somewhere in translation. When we say take care of your tranny and what not, it has nothing to do with boost or turning speed or anything like that. We're talking about properly rev matching, and properly double clutching. the whole bit.
do you know you technically don't even need your clutch to shift? you really only need it to get the car moving. From there, if you rev match perfectly, you can shift without the clutch.
My suggestion to get better at being nice to your tranny is to learn to double clutch. when you double clutch, (and pay attention) you start to learn when and where your gears are. Once you get better at it, you'll be able to do it while getting on it and shifting faster. just pay attention to what your car is telling you. you can learn alot about your car from the vibrations in your shifter. they are they, sutble, but they are there.
good luck with the rebuild and better luck next time

 

when i double clutch I downshift into the proper rpm range, for instance ill go 40mph and downshift to 2nd, then floor it in 2nd, and then pump the clutch. I do rev-match and I don't really slam gears. When I say Im careful with the transmission, I mean it. Yeah, sometimes I'll double clutch or brake boost, but most of the time i drive carefully and I always shift properly.

 

no, i didn't mean RPM range..... thats too broad... I ment RPM....
the right RPM range is good for your average driver, but it still makes things like your synchros work and your gears have to line up and all that jazz. At the exact right RPM, the gears line up with out the synchros, and therefore, you don't even need the clutch...
see what I'm sayin.
I'm not saying that you beat on your tranny all day and what not, I'm just saying that you could get better.... 99% of everyone could get better. In my experience, I have found that double clutching helps train your brain to think in two terms. Taking it out of gearn and putting it another gear. Most of us drive with one term, Shifting... See the difference?

 

I like the Kia, actually.

 

Yeah, I'm familiar with rev matching. I remember doing it when I first got my car back in '01. My step dad was telling me about rev matching (finding the exact RPM) and not having to clutch to change gears.

 

alright drew took the transmission apart, and found some interesting things. the shift fork is fine, by the way. the 2nd gear sleeve and the gear itself are messed up, as well as some syncros. hes going to get some prices on those parts tomorrow, but i hate being patient.

i was just wondering if anyone knew a ballpark figure for how much it would be for a sleeve and a gear?

 

that sucks man I hope you get it fixed and it doesnt cost a lot