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Old May 1, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sireal
I was thinking about it. The only concern that I have is that it is suposed to be pretty corrosive. Not as bad as methanol but enough to concern me. My car will be sitting except for weekends. With the thought of that fuel sitting in the car as much as it will I just have a bad mental picture of this stuff eating up my injectors/ pumps / etc. and causing me to lean out.....End result could be BOOM! I have been waiting for a few other people to use it as a daily fuel before I try. Now this is all what I have been told so dont take my word for it. I hope it works as well as it sounds, if so I will be running it for sure.
Brad your thinking of the wrong stuff, this will just take place of the gasoline in the primary rails. You will not be able to high boost on it. You will just be able to make a hell of alot more power by being able to run more boost as your low boost setting.

Its also like Dustan says not corrosive being diluted with gasoline, however the E98 that we will run on high boost is way more alky than gasoling. This makes it closer to methonol but no where near as corrosive.
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Old May 1, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by boosteddsm
Its not much more corrosive then you regular gasoline. If you have a car that is made after 1988 you should be fine.
Wholy crap Sireal your car just made the cutoff!!!!
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Old May 1, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by THE_ONE
Wholy crap Sireal your car just made the cutoff!!!!
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Originally Posted by sireal
1988 So your seals might be safe for Ethonol
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Old May 1, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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tampa has ethanol plant breaking ground next month. bad news is they are only planning e10 and not e85. we will get it but i believe it is still a couple years away from being at pumps like up north. its really good stuff. oct rating is 105 but it acts much higher. very close to c16 in performace from what I have seen.
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Originally Posted by lancerman
tampa has ethanol plant breaking ground next month. bad news is they are only planning e10 and not e85. we will get it but i believe it is still a couple years away from being at pumps like up north. its really good stuff. oct rating is 105 but it acts much higher. very close to c16 in performace from what I have seen.
What do you think of E98-100, still being way less corrossive than E85? Would you trust E85 in your car at 34psi and a 120shot of giggle juice?
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What do you think of E98-100, still being way less corrossive than E85? Would you trust E85 in your car at 34psi and a 120shot of giggle juice?
Would you trust that on 105 unleaded??? You would have to raise the octane level up still.
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Originally Posted by THE_ONE
What do you think of E98-100, still being way less corrossive than E85? Would you trust E85 in your car at 34psi and a 120shot of giggle juice?


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I am based in Minnesota, and need some information about this fuel.

We are currently running a Mitsubishi 4G63 with a 71mm Turbocharger on it. We were running E85 last year on a 61mm turbocharger and made 541 wheel horsepower on 25lbs of boost. Beyond that the clutch was slipping, so we called it a day and ran 11.0 @ 135mph. No knock.

About 2 weeks ago a fuel called E98 was brought to our attention. We did some searching and found a local distributor for 3.20 a gallon.

The fuel system is designed to run E85. Everything is okay to run it, and it has been running E85 for over a year.

My questions:

1. What would the Octane of this fuel be? E85 is 105ish octane, and I know from dyno experience that it takes a LOT to get it to knock.

2. Is it going to overly corrosive? The car has an aluminum cylinder head, and this is going to be a mixed street/strip car.

3. What are fuel consumption requirements going to be over E85? I'm guessing there won't be that much difference between the two, but I'm sure Stoich is different.

4. How hard is this going to be to ignite? Am I looking at an upgraded spark system? It does fine with E85, but it kind of stutters when it is cold (doesn't do this on VP C16), and I'm thinking it might be too cold of a spark or a spark blowout type deal.

Mainly I am worried about Corrosion.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by boosteddsm
Would you trust that on 105 unleaded??? You would have to raise the octane level up still.
I know much about it. I read about all the time. That question was for Jerry saying that it acts like C16... It may be 105 octane, but if 105 octane gasoline will blow your car up on a certain tune, the E85 might give you more head room even though being rated at the same...

If you go back and read my first reply to sireal you will see what how I explained it and how I would use it
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