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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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i hooked up an A/F ratio guage and at idle its all the way lean and almost off the guage just wondering if anyone elses car idles really lean and if it supposed to or not
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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those gauges are a pos , put it in the garbage it prolly will give u a better reading. btw i think they all read lean at idle.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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At idle the car should be at 14.7 which would be lean...
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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i dont think he got a wideband though.... but yea if you do have a wideband it should be at 14.7...if its a wideband, you might want to make sure your o2 sensor is working or hooked up, or if you took out your o2 sensor, send a signal to the ecu with the wideband, but it sounds like you are working with a regular cheapo a/f guage... in that case it is garbage
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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I have both a/f and a wideband. Throw away the a/f guage and get a wideband. I tried tuning with the a/f guage. Wrong reading all the time, a/f would say lean and my wideband would say normal or rich. At idle, car always runs lean. Save up...wideband ftw!
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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yea its not a wideband its one of pos ones i got it for ten bucks i need to get a wideband
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaco_GST
I have both a/f and a wideband. Throw away the a/f guage and get a wideband. I tried tuning with the a/f guage. Wrong reading all the time, a/f would say lean and my wideband would say normal or rich. At idle, car always runs lean. Save up...wideband ftw!
i see we learn the ways of having a a/f ratio gauge

to the OP, keep it, its christmas time and its giving great light show in your car.

then save up and get a wideband
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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haha yea its pretty much the only thing its good for
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by John
that's incorrect. Many fuel injected cars are tuned to idle at 16-17:1 - Some hondas idle as lean as 19-20:1. Pretty much disregard 14.7:1 as being anything useful at all. So what's proper idle afr? As lean as you can get it and still idle smooth. This helps prevent fouling of spark plugs as well as carbon deposits on the pistons, exhaust ports, and related systems.

As for your gauge, it's really not very useful for tuning purposes, much in the same way as the oil pressure light on the gauge cluster is not useful for monitoring oil pressure. By the time it shows you anything, its probably already too late.
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