http://www.dsmtalk.com/

I first heard of this a few weeks ago when I sent a pm to a mod asking why a thread with a review on the FP3065 wasn't working. He said they had some database problems and that he was going to bring it up again in the mod forum. A few days later, the board was down for repairs, then it was down for a few more days after a few hours of uptime, finally the message was updated, then it was down for a week, then they arrived at this message.

I hope the board doesn't go down forever, I like that board. I've seen it as sort of the comfortable middle ground between NABR and tuners. For example, lately I've been searching to determine what kind of IC will best suit my needs with moderate power goals.

On NABR you get threads talking about 2-216's, water-air coolers, straight pipes on methanol... , that sort of thing. Most of the people there are running friggin 10's or faster, so for the lame folks like me still in the 13's the discussion is often a bit too far down the power production line. NABR has the best, most advanced, and most accurate information, no doubt, but sometimes it's too advanced to answer simple questions. I search there when I'm looking for engine building information, advanced theory, information that I can take as gospel, but not for personal experiences with parts.

On tuners you get lots of threads asking a simple question like this, in fact, a search on "evo 16g fmic" came back with hundreds of threads. The problem is that though there is a lot of information, most of it is incorrect or just plain stupid information. Half of the posts in most of these threads are by assholes pulling shit out of their asses and tossing it onto the web. You get people saying things like "I think you should run a stock sidemount with water injection!" with a little thumbs-up symbol at the end, then other people disagreeing and arguing with them "Nah man, you have to buy an upgraded sidemount, I think the best one is from blahblahracing.com [their buddie's site, of course]". Of course, neither of them actually has any experience with any of this because their profiles show that they drive 1.8's with fart cans and home depot intakes. In the end the only useful info is posted by a few experienced posters, although you have to watch out as there are some real bullshitters that make their bullshit look good *cough*nos*cough*laser*.

DSMtalk was the middle ground, down-to-earth discussions on stuff more suitable for the 12's instead of the 9's, without the huge percentage of junk posts by idiots. I miss it.

 

From what i hear its gone for good. I didnt use the board so i wont miss it but when ever you loose a place for people to go then they just end up moving to another board. Hopefully its DSM TOONERS.

 

Your best bet would be to use one of the new PTE intercoolers. Heard nothing but good things and they are not expensive, and just use a set of shorty IC piping and you will be good to go. It is the route I am going with, I can hook you up somewhat if you chose to go that route. They have 3 main complete cores, one for 350hp, 550hp and 650hp.

I personally have never used DSM talk or tuners. I have only used tbdsm, orldsm here and NABR.

 

Same here, although I mostly read NABR priv. I'll check in on RMDSM once in a while as well, see what those high altitude crackers are up to. I avoid tooners like the plague, being at work gives me enough of a headache that I don't need to deal with the 95% moron population over there.

 

You must only read the classified sections then. Everything else is 99.99999999999% toolboxery at it's finest.

 

Yeah I was trying not to insult the 5% that probably also reads this forum.

 

i basically have come to avoid most DSM forums, i know what i want for my car, and how to get it, and see no need to boast how much i know, or show how much i dont know, on the nationwide forums when it basically does no good to me as far as being able to set goals and attain goals with my car, i post on the local boards because im more inclined to help local DSM'ers who are willing to learn with their problems and setups, and sometimes even gain a friend or two in the process, and i wont lie, sometimes its fun to bash n00b's with stupid questions

but in all honesty, i could care less if tooners and talk are gone forever, i read this forum, tbdsm, orl dsm, and miami dsm, occasionally, if i am in the need of a solid piece of info, i search NABR..

 

I never posted on the forums anyway, I just searched and read. I had 100 posts on dsmtalk in two or three years of membership, I have five or six posts on tuners mostly from a thread about fitment of fd rims and the thread I posted this morning linking the crankwalk thread in gen. car chat (yeah, it was a repost). I try to post on NABR every once in a while just to keep my account from being deleted for inactivity, but posting there is a big risk, you never know what might piss off an admin and get you booted, even after reading through thousands of threads. I like to think that my posts are of a high enough caliber that I don't have to worry, but I've seen people get booted for seemingly minor infractions.

 

Ah and this is why I love NABR. You got nothing to worry about posting on there. From the talks and PM's we have shared I would think I am more at risk then you in there and I have more friends in there. :lol

BTW hows my chip comin?

 

Ah, the chip- heh, PM sent.

Off-topic: I've looked at the PTE cores in the past, and I just took another look. They really do look good; I found a few pages with some interesting theory and observations about IC design and they seem to meet most of the major criteria for a good cooler. I'd like to see more detail on the fin structure and the view through the inlet/outlet, but I've read good things about them, so I have to assume they're up to snuff. I'll keep them in mind, I have another two or three months to go before I can justify purchasing a front mount. I'd like to get into the 12's on the stock sidemount and pump gas first.