im not no god expert when it comes to turbos or any thing i know the basics ... i was thinking of every thing except "injectors, an afpr, a walbro 190, an safc2" but thats no biggy thats why im asking but im not sure on what the different is in the safc and all the other 1s would a Vortech FMU work?

a guy on TR said it should be used on with stock injectors i sthis true ?

 

Thanks for the info 420a expert. You dont run a 14b on a low boost application because it quite simply will not move enough air. Thats why the 3 main turbo kit distributors for the 420a run larger turbos so they can still push out higher cfms at lower boost. You see the same thing for just about any other 4 cylinder turbo kits including hondas.

GSeclipse. Unfortunately its pointless to ask questions on here because you will just get flamed. Ive owned both a 4g63 and a turbo 420a and have much respect for both platforms and enthuisiasts. In dealing with both communities id have to say the 420a guys in general are much more pleasant to deal with because they dont suffer from the same superiority complex that a many do here in mitsu tech.

Cliff Notes: Seek advice over at www.2gnt.com where you wont get responses from some people (Not All) that probably cant change their own oil but want to tell you to sell your car and that you are wasting your money doing what YOU want to do.

 

the only thing about that 2gnt.com is that its a different setup like the forums and what not..... im not to sure on how to use it ... looks like ill be takeing time to learn how

 

I won't say go buy a GST, but I will say "Go buy a GSX". FWD Sucks.... nuff said

 

are you the guy who imed me ?

 

Alex..........I LOVE YOU MAN lol!!!! Anyway, don't make me bust out that pic of you inside your GS with the STAR kit lol!!

 

You wont!

 

http://users.wpi.edu/~ktarry/dsmtech...fficiency.html
Basically, the theory says that changes in compressor sizing shouldn't matter in situations like these with low boost on an NA engine. The only difference in power should come from a VE increase with a larger more free-flowing hot side. The only problem with that is that some people see increases in power changing compressor housings leaving the hot side the same, boost the same, etc. And whether it's really the decreased backpressure or something on the cold side simplistic theories cannot explain, big turbos make significantly more power on low boost. So, this whole paragraph is pointless, but the theory behind it is worth knowing .

The turbo sizing really depend on what he wants to do with the car. Here's the question: are you trying to go all out to make this car as fast as it can be within the limitations of the stock block? If so, get a GSX . Or are you just trying to have a quick car without dumping a lot of money into it? I think a smaller turbo would do the job, add a good bit of power, and cost him less. I have nothing against people who turbo 2gnt's, but if your goal is all out speed, start with the right platform. Hell, if you want to be fast in a straight line, I don't even know if I'd recommend a DSM, the driveline reliability issues on AWD's hold them back somewhat and FWD's will always be traction limited. You can set up a RWD car to out-launch an AWD on the track but with beefy parts that aren't nearly as prone to failure. Power production may be another story... a good turbo V8 kicks ass, but from what I've seen the 4G63 and, say, a turbo 302 can both put out about the same amount on the stock block but with less effort on the 302's part, but building a good engine to take more than that will cost a lot more with the 302. It's basically neck and neck from what I've seen so far.

 

see this car isnt going to be a fast car i know this i dont plan on it being a fast car i just want something were i can get out of my own way you know....... and wize turbo doing you think i should go with ? i was thinking along the lines of a big 16G but im not sure... thanks for the help

 

safc2 Vortech SFMU ? witch 1 do i need ? can some 1 go into details on how they work thanks