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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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its an 88 turbo 2 rx7, well lets put it this way i tried almost everything, pulling the spark plugs out and getting rid of the fuel thats flooded in the engine, checked the fuel pump and that is fine, checked the sensors, checked the compression with a piston compression tester and the fronts are 85 psi and the backs are 100 psi, the engine keeps flooding with fuel and everytime i take out the spark plugs they have some gas on it. I was thinking it was the fuel injectors stayed open but i don't really know about rotaries.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Yes first of all I would REPLACE the plugs with new ones
1. Take auto trans flud [1/4] of a capfull and place it in the upper intake, wait a few seconds than turn key.
2. If it doesnt start repeat twice
3. If it does start hold at idle around 2-3000 rpm for 2-3 minutes. DO NOT SHUT OFF CAR if it starts. Let it get up to normal operating temp.
4. Than go ahead and replace with new plugs.
5. If this works and than you replace the plugs... You may have a pump throwing to much psi, or you may have really weak compression.
6. If all else fails call scott at mazsport in largo fl. If he is not available than try jeff at maztech in tampa fl. on a side note if it does kick over its going to smoke like hell for a few minutes, so do not attempt this in your garage
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by leo
Yes first of all I would REPLACE the plugs with new ones
1. Take auto trans flud [1/4] of a capfull and place it in the upper intake, wait a few seconds than turn key.
2. If it doesnt start repeat twice
3. If it does start hold at idle around 2-3000 rpm for 2-3 minutes. DO NOT SHUT OFF CAR if it starts. Let it get up to normal operating temp.
4. Than go ahead and replace with new plugs.
5. If this works and than you replace the plugs... You may have a pump throwing to much psi, or you may have really weak compression.
6. If all else fails call scott at mazsport in largo fl. If he is not available than try jeff at maztech in tampa fl. on a side note if it does kick over its going to smoke like hell for a few minutes, so do not attempt this in your garage
1. ATF is highly corrosive and is done at the completely last resort when the compression is LOW
2. Not a good idea and did u note that so much smoke will come out of the exhaust it will look like a fire from far away.


What he needs to do is check to see if he is getting ignition and check all his grounds and get new wires.

When u did the compression check did you take out the check valve on the compression tool. Remember you are checking three faces. One side might have 85 and the other might have 0. The check valve will make the motor seems as its a good motor...when the motor is actually bad.

example
Face 1: 0 psi
Face 2: 0 psi
Face 3 85 Psi

The check valve will give u a compression of 85psi

putting ATF is not a good idea since it can damage the motor even more.A 13b can run on one housing so it might be something else.

If the spark plugs have gas on them...you seriosly have a problem since the fuel distribution is on the other side of the motor. Try mounting a flood switch to save u some time.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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What he failed to mention here was
I helped him yesterday.

Gas was old and bad,You can smell it even though he put in 4 gallons of 87.

I drained the tank.
He then got 93.

I checked plugs which were brand new.
I dried them off.

I checked spark/good spark.
Took plugs out to flush motor of fuel.

Timing set in the middle/decent point to start off with.

I checked fuel pump,pumping fuel.

I checked compression,85/100
I put oil in front rotor housing to build compression.

You DONT put ATF for compression.

I think he has injector problems.

The car is getting to much fuel and floods easy.
I even tried to start it with the EGI fuse out.

Wants to turn over,but nothing.

Its a TII swap with alot of loose wires.
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Originally Posted by Rx7_guy
1. ATF is highly corrosive and is done at the completely last resort when the compression is LOW
2. Not a good idea and did u note that so much smoke will come out of the exhaust it will look like a fire from far away.


What he needs to do is check to see if he is getting ignition and check all his grounds and get new wires.

When u did the compression check did you take out the check valve on the compression tool. Remember you are checking three faces. One side might have 85 and the other might have 0. The check valve will make the motor seems as its a good motor...when the motor is actually bad.

example
Face 1: 0 psi
Face 2: 0 psi
Face 3 85 Psi

The check valve will give u a compression of 85psi

putting ATF is not a good idea since it can damage the motor even more.A 13b can run on one housing so it might be something else.

If the spark plugs have gas on them...you seriosly have a problem since the fuel distribution is on the other side of the motor. Try mounting a flood switch to save u some time.
When you check a rotary with a piston compression testor you check for 3 pulses.

If you cant check it by that,you pull out a plug and check for whooshes.
Booth front and rear are fine.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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I concur with the injector problem....Hope he has the right injectors/resistor block, and I hope the injectors are wired right. Looks like he needs to take off the UIM/throttle and recheck wiring and check for the right ecu.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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The car ran when he got it,then ran for the few days he had it untill he started to work in it.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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So...it safe to say something was done. lol

Question is, what was it?
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its either something electrical or the fuel injectors, i might of hit something a made one of the wires dissconnect or go bad but i hope i find the problem soon
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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check all your vacuum lines and please tell me u don' have those silicon ones cause they pop off under boost
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