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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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looking for the best place for the best price for full race port and polish 5 angle valve job and that stuff
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 05:01 AM
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FYI, port & polishing along with valve jobs don't do much of anything if not done by EXPERIENCED professionals. I have yet to see a head job that was done locally actually make a difference that helped on a car I have tuned. In fact I have seen cars make less power then they were supposed to due to improper porting.

Leave your head ports alone & put your money else where. Honda did a heck of a job with the stock head casting.
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Originally Posted by mtber
FYI, port & polishing along with valve jobs don't do much of anything if not done by EXPERIENCED professionals. I have yet to see a head job that was done locally actually make a difference that helped on a car I have tuned. In fact I have seen cars make less power then they were supposed to due to improper porting.

Leave your head ports alone & put your money else where. Honda did a heck of a job with the stock head casting.

Couldnt have been said any better...If you really wanna have yer head P&P'd send it to like port flow or something of that nature.
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so not worth the time just build it with the money i have i want to do all ls turbo whats the best stuff to use for high power i have a sleeved block by darton.bored and stroked
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Originally Posted by jdm92dx
so not worth the time just build it with the money i have i want to do all ls turbo whats the best stuff to use for high power i have a sleeved block by darton.bored and stroked
Instead of spending money on porting your ls head and ls cams etc. Buy a stock b16 or gsr head. It will out flow the ls head with minimal investment.

Concerning sleeving, boring, stroking:
Use the stock stroke (crank).
Use aftermarket rods such as eagle or manly etc.
CP/Wiesco pistons (9.0:1 c/r if turbocharged)
Use golden eagle sleeves (84mm for turbo) (who I would use).
Use arp head bolts
Use oem bearing/oil/water pump
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I do agree that an LS head is not worth porting unless it can help in the race class one is in.

The Type R Prep port n polish that David Green did on my B16 head with the valve job, head work that was done by Extreme Performance in Stuart, FL along with the head/intake/exhaust package I used made the power difference in my LSVTEC.

He also did some port work on a stock B16A engine for a guy who didn't have a lot of money to put into his car just to see what a difference would make. I went for a ride after and the car picked up a lot of low end torque and through the mid range. A stock B16A with low end torque? Yep.

Flow rates through the head can be measured so therefore a PNP job is worth it and even more so when the rest of the head is done properly.

For PNP work: David Green 321.632.6558. Referred by Angela. He also built an LS Turbo for a guy up in SC if you would like to ask him questions about the build you can call him.
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chi town brat
I do agree that an LS head is not worth porting unless it can help in the race class one is in.

The Type R Prep port n polish that David Green did on my B16 head with the valve job, head work that was done by Extreme Performance in Stuart, FL along with the head/intake/exhaust package I used made the power difference in my LSVTEC.

He also did some port work on a stock B16A engine for a guy who didn't have a lot of money to put into his car just to see what a difference would make. I went for a ride after and the car picked up a lot of low end torque and through the mid range. A stock B16A with low end torque? Yep.

Flow rates through the head can be measured so therefore a PNP job is worth it and even more so when the rest of the head is done properly.

For PNP work: David Green 321.632.6558. Referred by Angela. He also built an LS Turbo for a guy up in SC if you would like to ask him questions about the build you can call him.
So did you perform a back to back dyno se-ssion on the same dyno to prove your "power" findings?

I have tuned over 400 honda/acura vehicles, everything from sohc all motor setups to k-series turbo setups.

I can attest to 90% of "ported" heads not making a difference or actually hurting performance. Why? Improper porting jobs/sloppy work. Bigger is not always better etc.
About 10% of the vehicles that come in with a "ported" head job actually make more power. They are usually heads from portflow and alanz.

To the OP: Unless some one has a flow bench & tons of spare heads of the same casting as yours laying around to experiment with, I wouldn't even bother letting them port your head.
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