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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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How do you want the collector in a turbo manifold? Say for a 4-1 collector, do you want the choke CSA to be just bigger than the runner CSA, do you want it the same size as the housing on the turbo (if the housing hole is round), or somewhere in between? Or do you want it to merge down to a nice, small choke, then have a funnel to open back up to the size on the manifold or?

Like in this Go-Autoworks Top Mount, it looks like the collector choke is the same size as the opening in the mount flange.


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In a Hytech manifold, it looks like it just merges down to a large pipe width, passes through a quick turn, then into the turbo housing. I haven't found any good pictures of the flange shape though.



What about the square flange on lots of turbos? You take what would be a round-ish collector, open it up to a square flange, then the turbo housing rounds out a bit.

Wouldn't the sudden opening from the manifold-flange-turbo cause exhaust gases to suddenly expand/slow down/increase pressure? Or is that the point, with the flange acting as a slight anti-reversion step?



I realize most turbo/manifold designs are a combination of trade-offs, but what would be ideal.

I think I'll be using a Big 16G which convinently has a round hole where the manifold attaches to. Would you just have the collector choke match the size of the housing inlet, or have it choke down and then expand up to housing inlet size? Short or long expansion?

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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Who cares your doing it to a d series you can easily get your max power from the thing with a shitty log manifold.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zhillz
Who cares your doing it to a d series you can easily get your max power from the thing with a shitty log manifold.


Wouldn't matter if it was on V8 or a 4G63, design ideas would still be the same.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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You're comparing different manifold designs. They each have their own purpose. Exhaust manifold and collector design is dependant upon compressor/turbine, downpipe, exhaust, intake manifold, cams and compression.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sxysweed


Wouldn't matter if it was on V8 or a 4G63, design ideas would still be the same.




I said it wouldn't matter since your going for a pathetic power goal.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zhillz



I said it wouldn't matter since your going for a pathetic power goal.
And what's my power goal?
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Originally Posted by sxysweed
And what's my power goal?

ill give ya high guess but 200whp?
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sullivanracing06
ill give ya high guess but 200whp?
300whp, with GREAT midrange.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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The graphs and numbers you keep asking about is 180whp NA and under 250 on boost. I'm not searching your threads to find the exact info.
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Manifold design is EXTREMELY important depending on power goal.

<300whp can be easily achieved with log mani.
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