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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Went to the dyno day at Brotherz Racing. Well ran into my first real setback on this project. Throw the car up on the dyno and it makes 185ish whp at 9 psi. Knew something was wrong so we pulled the plugs and they were showing signs of mild detonation. A/F's were good and ignition timing was conservative. We even had the base timing set to 14 degrees even just to be safe. Funny thing was that at 14 degrees base the distributor was clocked almost all the way in advance. Cam gears are set to zero so that was not the reason. I've seen this before and was prettty sure my ignitor was f'ing up. We re-gap the plugs and take out timing and take another run with the same result. Knew it was time to take the car off the dyno. I ran a compression test afterwards and got 180-185 all the way across which is what I was expecting to see on 8.6-8.9:1 compression. So at least I know the motor was not hurt, motor was also not smoking and pulls good vauum so I feel good about that. I checked cam timing and it was dead on so that was not the problem, cam gears were still at 0,0 so they hadn't slipped either. All components in the dizzy are new with exception of the igniter, coil however is a NAPA piece so I'm not 100% confident on that either. I'm going to try X's distributor when he switches over to the COP setup so hopefully that clears this up.

I'd like to thank Brotherz racing for the dyno time, Alpha for helping me run/tune the car, and John Vega for fixing some problems in my base map before I dyno'd. If the distributor feels like it fixes the problem then back to the dyno I go.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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KJ. Even if you use X's distributor I would like for you to put my new ignitor chip in. Will git ir dun
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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good to hear that the car was not hurt and was no major damage done. always there are some type of set backs to hamper your progress. hope next time on the dyno you achieve your goals.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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KJ, I hope the issue is simply the dizzy. Let us know how it ends up working out.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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real nice ...clean as hell
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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dont worry about it man....u'll get ur dizzy which sounds like its what you need and back on the dyno u go..niice.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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I don't really see it being anything other than the dizzy.

-motor isn't hurt
-not running out of fuel
-turbo is making the boost it should when it should
-vtec is engaging

I'll find out in a couple of days. The problems I'm having are very similar to the problems Christian was having a while back with his turbo integra. Very similar (low) whp numbers too. His car was an igniter also I believe.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mtber
KJ, I hope the issue is simply the dizzy. Let us know how it ends up working out.
John, wouldn't this be something?

KJ , keep us informed on what you find out.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lzylst
John, wouldn't this be something?

KJ , keep us informed on what you find out.
I don't understand your question Vance.
I did mention the distributor as a doubtful culprit on your setup, however anything is possible man.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KJ
I don't really see it being anything other than the dizzy.

-motor isn't hurt
-not running out of fuel
-turbo is making the boost it should when it should
-vtec is engaging

I'll find out in a couple of days. The problems I'm having are very similar to the problems Christian was having a while back with his turbo integra. Very similar (low) whp numbers too. His car was an igniter also I believe.
Christian's setup had an obvious ignition issue. The distributor was advanced ALL the way & the ignition maps had timing added to reach 16.5 deg btdc. (It was like this when he brought it to me, I assume JK tuned it before me).

Keep us updated.
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