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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha
No. You would have to get someone with the car in their possesion todo that. Talk to KJ and/or LHT
Yes they do... phoenix turbo makes one. I don't like the i/c design nor the clearances but hey it works I guess.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mtber
Yes they do... phoenix turbo makes one. I don't like the i/c design nor the clearances but hey it works I guess.
Their exhaust manifold is insane. The reason I mention Full-Race is that they are one of two companies I have seen a true, third party, comparison come from.

Like Scorpion_S said. A top mount isn't a top mount. Tube diameter, number and shape of bends, tubing length AND collector design are key to a functional top mount. They are nice for the GT42R guys too
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha
Their exhaust manifold is insane. The reason I mention Full-Race is that they are one of two companies I have seen a true, third party, comparison come from.

Like Scorpion_S said. A top mount isn't a top mount. Tube diameter, number and shape of bends, tubing length AND collector design are key to a functional top mount. They are nice for the GT42R guys too
Look at my helmet BITCH

I agree, I do not like the design.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mtber
Look at my helmet BITCH

I agree, I do not like the design.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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its amazinh how everyone keeps saying the same thing i say in just different words. i said it all depends on the design. let me desgn a shitty top mount and put it up against a awesome regular amnifold. then see which makes more power.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Thanks for the responds everyone, Can I get a 3rd party opinion/description on IC sprayers?
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sohcvtec1995
its amazinh how everyone keeps saying the same thing i say in just different words. i said it all depends on the design.
No you said....

Originally Posted by Sohcvtec1995
top mounts are more of a cool factor. unless it isdesigned for cooling purposes. .
A top mount design has nothing to do with cooling purposes or "cool" factor. It has to do with that fact that most every turbo runs a gravity feed oil return and for the most part an equal length design requires a top mount so the turbo sits above the oil pan.

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no. a large amount of the air going into the intake is exhuast. thats one of the reassons why its so hot. hence the way a turbo works, reuseing expelled gases to create pressure.. .
Please get your facts right before you post. At no point do exhaust gases enter the intake. The intake air gets hot from being slung around the compressor wheel at 100,000+ rpm. Very little heat from the turbine side is actually bled to the compressor side. Don't believe me, get a hand-held temp gauge and messure the housings. On my car the turbine is around 800* and the center section is around 300*. The compressor reads around 200* along with the rest of my engine bay. Air temps going into the IC are around 180*.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks for the backup Scorpion S
Anyone on IC's?
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Are you talking about using nitrious to cool the IC, or some type of water injection? I'm assuming the first at which point you'd run the juice though the run to keep the IC at a lower temp. If you just sprayed at the begining by the time you where through first you'd be right back to where you started with temps.
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