250 lb/ft torque..easily obtainable?
torque...is something all H badged cars lack from the get go
the only way to produce torque in our cars is boost. so here is my question
i want ATLEAST 250 lb/ft. of torque, on 93 octane
what i have now:
sfp cereramic coated manifold,
tial 40mm wastegate
precision sc 44...
hopefully hondata or uberdata(props to vertigo)
intecooler and boost controller have not been bought/chosen yet
here are the basic specs on the engine
basic pr3 head with slight bowl and port work from rlz engineering
stock b17a cams,,, 264 intake/274 exhaust i believe
new oem valves, itr springs , skunk retainers
and now here is the problem
block choice.
the car has an original b17a..but ive been think about using a diffrent bottom end, b18c or b18b
you think 250 lb/ft. torque is possible with the 1.7 in street use?
(pump gas, low psi)
or should i go with one of the 1.8's?
please, dont start an ls/vtec debate over this
the only way to produce torque in our cars is boost. so here is my question
i want ATLEAST 250 lb/ft. of torque, on 93 octane
what i have now:
sfp cereramic coated manifold,
tial 40mm wastegate
precision sc 44...
hopefully hondata or uberdata(props to vertigo)
intecooler and boost controller have not been bought/chosen yet
here are the basic specs on the engine
basic pr3 head with slight bowl and port work from rlz engineering
stock b17a cams,,, 264 intake/274 exhaust i believe
new oem valves, itr springs , skunk retainers
and now here is the problem
block choice.
the car has an original b17a..but ive been think about using a diffrent bottom end, b18c or b18b
you think 250 lb/ft. torque is possible with the 1.7 in street use?
(pump gas, low psi)
or should i go with one of the 1.8's?
please, dont start an ls/vtec debate over this
I have a completely stock LS on 93 octane w/ 270 ft/lb's on low boost. I'll keep you posted on high boost tq #'s, after next weekend. With lower compression engines, running a high level of boost, will net you high tq #'s. For 250lb/ft you do not need to sleeve or bore over a B series to a 2.0L, that is unnecessary. Of course displacement is the obvious answer for increased output, or torque, but for what you are looking for you can achieve that with far less.
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- B18b -
349 whp - 299 ft/lb
99 gsr
- B18b -
349 whp - 299 ft/lb
T3 T04E 56 trim with .63a/r
The boost level is irrelevant, I tuned by tq. What I have now will be low boost, and I have yet to tune for higher boost. Both will be on 93 octane.
The boost level is irrelevant, I tuned by tq. What I have now will be low boost, and I have yet to tune for higher boost. Both will be on 93 octane.
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99 gsr
- B18b -
349 whp - 299 ft/lb
99 gsr
- B18b -
349 whp - 299 ft/lb
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I was not aware Garret made a 56 trim(besides a GT30). Boost level is most certainly relevant. I've never known anyone to "tune" by boost.
Most tune by A/F, EGT, and / or timing. However... I didn't even ask how you tuned man. Simply what turbo, and how much boost.
Most tune by A/F, EGT, and / or timing. However... I didn't even ask how you tuned man. Simply what turbo, and how much boost.
Last edited by Cronic; Jan 31, 2004 at 02:47 PM.
Originally posted by Cronic
I was not aware Garret made a 56 trim(besides a GT30). Boost level is most certainly relevant. I've never known anyone to "tune" by boost.
Most tune by A/F, EGT, and / or timing. However... I didn't even ask how you tuned man. Simply what turbo, and how much boost.
I was not aware Garret made a 56 trim(besides a GT30). Boost level is most certainly relevant. I've never known anyone to "tune" by boost.
Most tune by A/F, EGT, and / or timing. However... I didn't even ask how you tuned man. Simply what turbo, and how much boost.
But if it truly helps. . . 14 psi
and you have to "tune" by boost. (specifically map pressure & rpm)
and yes obviously A/F would be how to tune fuel, and one of the ways to see the direct effects of timing in boost would be egt
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99 gsr
- B18b -
349 whp - 299 ft/lb
99 gsr
- B18b -
349 whp - 299 ft/lb


