using hondata with all motor??
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what kinds of gains have people received when having the handata install and tuned on a all motor b-series. looking at getting it done but i want to see what kind of gains are people seeing. thanks in advance
I know this might be a little of course to your acutal questions but I wanted to share some insight...I was going to go the same route, but was advised that it wouldnt be too benefical for my particular setup. Reason being is that with the hondata setup(now, im no hondata guru mind you)that you will pay "x" amount of dollars to purchase the system then "xx" amount per "x" hours of dollars to have it tuned the 1st time around. Well, if you go with the alternative route (v-afc, etc)you will pay for the system "x" dollars, then maybe "x" of dollars to have it tuned PLUS maybe learn alittle about tuning it yourself, then you wont have to pay for dyno time hours and tuning if you change your setup ie, add more fuel, more parts, yada yada. Thats what was suggested to me for running all-motor. But of course, IF you had the cheese to pay for tuning when you upgrade, then by all means.
But I would like to know more info on running hondata as far as the gains/advantages myself.
But I would like to know more info on running hondata as far as the gains/advantages myself.
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cronic has a dyno graph which shows a 12 or 16 HP gain on a stock honda....stock......cant remember, i belive it was a dohc vtec
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It all depends on what setup you are going to run 
90% of the time hondata will make more power then anything else because it has to be tuned & tuned & tuned.
90% of the time hondata will make more power then anything else because it has to be tuned & tuned & tuned.
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Originally posted by Vapor
no, it doesnt have to be tuned and tuned. There is more to tune than a VAFC can do.
I can tune ignition timing in 300 rpm increments, fuel enrichment, compensate for very large injectors (I have made 900cc injectors idle and run like stock on a n/a motor) vtec engagement, nitrous fuel enrichment, nitrous ignition retard, a/c shut off, idle speed, disable needless check engine lights, add a shift light, and I can optionally add datalogging and a three stage rev limiter.
There are more things to tune and more power can be had from it - but once it's tuned, you don't have to even think about it
no, it doesnt have to be tuned and tuned. There is more to tune than a VAFC can do.
I can tune ignition timing in 300 rpm increments, fuel enrichment, compensate for very large injectors (I have made 900cc injectors idle and run like stock on a n/a motor) vtec engagement, nitrous fuel enrichment, nitrous ignition retard, a/c shut off, idle speed, disable needless check engine lights, add a shift light, and I can optionally add datalogging and a three stage rev limiter.
There are more things to tune and more power can be had from it - but once it's tuned, you don't have to even think about it
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Originally posted by Vapor
no, it doesnt have to be tuned and tuned. There is more to tune than a VAFC can do.
I can tune ignition timing in 300 rpm increments, fuel enrichment, compensate for very large injectors (I have made 900cc injectors idle and run like stock on a n/a motor) vtec engagement, nitrous fuel enrichment, nitrous ignition retard, a/c shut off, idle speed, disable needless check engine lights, add a shift light, and I can optionally add datalogging and a three stage rev limiter.
There are more things to tune and more power can be had from it - but once it's tuned, you don't have to even think about it
no, it doesnt have to be tuned and tuned. There is more to tune than a VAFC can do.
I can tune ignition timing in 300 rpm increments, fuel enrichment, compensate for very large injectors (I have made 900cc injectors idle and run like stock on a n/a motor) vtec engagement, nitrous fuel enrichment, nitrous ignition retard, a/c shut off, idle speed, disable needless check engine lights, add a shift light, and I can optionally add datalogging and a three stage rev limiter.
There are more things to tune and more power can be had from it - but once it's tuned, you don't have to even think about it
Anyways, oh well.. Hondata is great if you can afford it...
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You do have the option of tuning Hondata yourself, just liek a VAFC, HOWEVER, it is MUCh more advanced then a VAFC, so you will have to learn more.
It also takes some learning to tune a VAFC, and of course, all of them should be done on a dyno.
It also takes some learning to tune a VAFC, and of course, all of them should be done on a dyno.
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I would not touch hondata with a 10 ft poll on a motor which I invetested tons of time & money into :-/
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