Doing our best to avoid trouble, not looking for it.
Minding Your Own Business Is Smart Policy
By John Caile // 11/30/2018
I’m thankful that stories of legally armed citizens making incredibly bad choices are relatively rare occurrences. But when I do come across them, I like to use them as “teachable moments.” Anytime the mistakes of others can help us avoid trouble in our own lives, we should take advantage of it.You may recall the case I referenced a few months ago where a https://fox59.com/2018/07/24/fatal-shooting-in-parking-space-dispute-prompts-questions-about-floridas-stand-your-ground-law/ approached a vehicle that was parked in a handicapped spot, leading to a violent confrontation.Deciding to designate ourselves as the “parking police” is a quick way to instigate a nasty situation (which is exactly what happened; the armed citizen involved is now charged with manslaughter, and his next pre-trial hearing is set for December).Worse, in the aftermath, anti-gun activists have used the case as an excuse to attack Florida’s “stand your ground” law (even though SYG was not claimed). This is another lesson for everyone who carries: When just one of “us” behaves badly, it often ends up hurting the rest of us.So I was particularly interested in another case in Minnesota that occurred just this past week. A police sergeant I know up there sent me some info on an incident that occurred in Eden Prairie, a suburb of Minneapolis. According to WCCO News-4:“There are concerns surrounding how a situation was handled this week after a group of Somali teens alleged that a man pulled a gun on them inside an Eden Prairie McDonald’s restaurant. Police arrested 55-year-old Lloyd Edward Johnson Wednesday afternoon on probable cause of second-degree assault.”According to witnesses, workers at the McDonald’s restaurant had trouble processing payment for the teens’ orders. Annoyed at waiting, Johnson allegedly asked them if they were using EBT cards (i.e., the electronic version of food stamps).The teens, apparently insulted by the remark, surrounded Johnson, yelling at him, at which point he backed out of the restaurant, telling the teens to “stay back.” A
shows the tail-end of the altercation, with the manager of the McDonald’s telling the teens to “get the [bleep] out of my store” several times.According to my police officer friend, the chaos in this incident is going to make it very difficult to untangle exactly what happened. But regardless of how this case ends up in court, there are several things the rest of us can take away from it.First, nowadays, anything we do, especially if it involves a gun, will more than likely be preserved on video, not to mention blasted all over the internet. And, unfortunately, even video does not always tell the whole story.Second, because this case involved Somali teenagers, both the media and local political activists jumped at the chance to focus on the racial aspect. The New York Times headline is a perfect example: “White Man Accused of Brandishing Gun at Black Teenagers in a McDonald’s Is Arrested”
I urge you to read the entire article.Third, and perhaps most important, this incident need never have happened. If Mr. Johnson had simply refrained from commenting, he could have avoided this entire situation.Finally, both of the above cases underscore a basic self-defense rule: Unless you or another person is clearly in imminent physical danger, you should just mind your own business! We should be doing our best to avoid trouble, not looking for it.
I urge you to read the entire article.Third, and perhaps most important, this incident need never have happened. If Mr. Johnson had simply refrained from commenting, he could have avoided this entire situation.Finally, both of the above cases underscore a basic self-defense rule: Unless you or another person is clearly in imminent physical danger, you should just mind your own business! We should be doing our best to avoid trouble, not looking for it.
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Are You Tough Enough to Walk Away?
By Kevin Michalowski // 10/12/2018
Do you live in a “stand your ground” state? Are you adamant that you will stand your ground because it is your right? Have you thought this through? Do you even know what you are talking about?First up, “stand your ground” laws only remove your duty to retreat before employing deadly force. All the other requirements for the use of deadly force still apply. You must not be the instigator. You must reasonably believe that you are facing an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. You must reasonably believe that no other action except the use of deadly force will protect you or another innocent party from death or great bodily harm. Once all those elements are met, the SYG laws simply lift your duty to retreat.But I want you to consider retreating anyway.Yep, even when you are “protected” by a SYG law, you should consider removing yourself from the situation before it escalates to gunfire. If you are doing something for the “principle” of the matter, well, that’s the wrong reason to let a situation escalate into a deadly force incident. You don’t have to walk away, but you should do so anyway.There is one caveat: Only attempt to escape if you can do so safely. If you reasonably believe that your attempt to leave the area would put you at risk of attack, the choice seems to have been made for you. You have heard the old saying, “Don’t turn your back on a loaded gun.” Well, don’t turn your back on a guy who is threatening to harm you either. But if you can back away slowly and safely, being always alert and ready to repel an assault, I suggest you do so. I make this suggestion even if you are in the right. It comes back to something my father told me when I was learning to drive. Another driver made an illegal left turn in front of me while going through an intersection. I hesitated, swore and finally took evasive action as the illegally turning driver went on his way, oblivious to my car and me. Afterward, I uttered something about having the right-of-way, and my father correctly pointed out, “Even if you have the right-of-way, you should make every effort to avoid the accident. Nothing good comes from an accident, regardless of who is at fault.”He was right. Even as a teen driver who thought he knew everything about everything, I could see that he was right. Had I not taken the evasive action, my car would have been damaged. Regardless of who was at fault, I would have been inconvenienced until it was fixed. Worse yet, I could have been hurt; even a finding of fault and a cash settlement would not have reduced the pain and possible problems associated with a long-term injury. Truly, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.I want you to imagine this scenario: You come out of a store to find a man bashing your brand-new car with a baseball bat. It’s a case of mistaken identity, but when you run up and tell the lunatic to stop, he turns his attention to you and begins threatening to beat you to death. You could draw your gun and legally shoot him to stop that threat. But that is not the end of the story.Now, consider the aftermath: Police arrive. You are detained. Your gun is taken as evidence. Some witnesses tell a different story than yours, saying the guy didn’t appear to be attacking you. Now you need a lawyer. Your face is splashed on the news. You must deal with the trauma of taking a life. And maybe worst of all, friends of the guy you shot decide they need revenge. That’s just the short list of all the bad things that could happen even though you had the legal right to stand your ground.On the other hand, consider the alternative outcome: From a distance, you yell at the guy to stop smashing your car, and he says, “So this is your car! I’m going to kill you!”Yes, you should believe that he intends to kill you, but you still have the option to get away. You could simply leave and call police. If he chases you, you then have a very clear case of self-defense. You could draw your gun and tell him to leave you alone as you back up to relative safety.If you can bring an end to the situation without firing a shot, you should make every effort to do so. The problems don’t stop after the echo of the last gunshot. They are just beginning. Avoid those problems if you can.
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Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
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Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
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