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Old 10-02-2008, 06:57 PM
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If I did it, I'd have to do a lot more research. Won't be happening anytime soon, for sure.
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I only drive 2 miles to work, does that mean I will never have to fill up again? That would be sweet, I would buy it then.
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Originally Posted by 1fastang
I only drive 2 miles to work, does that mean I will never have to fill up again? That would be sweet, I would buy it then.
The Volt runs on batteries. They don't recharge themselves. They claim 40 miles with no charging from the gasoline engine. So, in theory, you could make your 2-mile trip twenty times before it used any gas. I don't know if the Volt has the option to plug-in or not, if it does, then you could thwart the need to use any gas by charging the batteries at home.

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2 mile drive to work. 4 miles per day. Let's say you go out to lunch every day, so 8 miles per day, 5 days per week. That's 40 miles... let's be generous and say you drive another 60 miles goofing off on the weekend for an even 100 miles per week. 52 weeks per year. 5200 miles.

Still with me?

Okay, 5200 miles... since the trips are short, even a high-economy car isn't going to return great mileage because it doesn't have time to warm up. Realistically, this puts you in the same boat as my wife, who struggles to get 25 mpg in a MINI Cooper (base model) on her 3-mile commute. So, 25 mpg. 5200/25=208 gallons in a year. At $4/gallon (I just filled up at $2.60, woohoo!), that's about $800 per year.

So... let's say you spent $15k on a Yaris/Corolla/Fit or whatever that is rated at 30+ mpg city. And compare that to the Volt that in the best case uses NO fuel (assuming it can plug-in and we disregard the cost of electricity), but costs $40k to buy.

Most people keep a car for 5 years, and I wouldn't expect the Volt to be a "10-year" car like a Toyota or a Honda, so lets spread that difference in cost over 5 years. $25k/5= $5k per year.

Is it worth spending $5k per year to have a whiz-bang electric car that will save you at most $800/year? That's $4200 it's COSTING you to not use gasoline.

I'm not that green.
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^wow
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Originally Posted by slo_hatch93
^wow
Are all of your 11,000+ posts this insightful?
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Same story goes for most of these hybrids, it'll take well over 100k miles to payback the difference the car cost you up front. Your probably doing good at that point if the batteries are still up to par.

On a side note..... 2009 Cadillac Escalade Hybrid Pricing and Information

That might be the stupidest thing I've ever seen

#1 - If I can afford a 60k mad pimp SUV do you think I'd care how much gas it uses?

#2 - It's 15k or so more for the hybrid so you could buy a Civic instead with the difference
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Originally Posted by Loren
Are all of your 11,000+ posts this insightful?
wow = that was alot of interesting stuff.and no, not all my post are this "insightful".
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Originally Posted by slo_hatch93
wow = that was alot of interesting stuff.and no, not all my post are this "insightful".
Sorry for my knee-jerk reaction. "Wow" can mean a lot of different things from "wow, that was awesome" to "wow, that's a lot of good information" to "wow, what a buttload of crap", etc.

Thanks for clarifying.
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The Volt is most assuredly a plug-in. It's more of a plug-in electric car with a backup gas generator than a "hybrid", since the entire drivetrain is electric and the only thing the gas engine does is kick in to supply juice when the batteries run out.

I agree that even spending almost nothing to juice the Volt up from the grid for your daily commute it's still not going to work out cheaper than a sub-$15k subcompact. $40k to start is going to make it another green fashion statement to start, but hopefully as the technology matures prices will come down and it will become a viable option for the mainstream.
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As much as I love internal combustion, for the operation of electric vehicles, I'll be glad to see the development of the hydrogen fuel cell.
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