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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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So, I decded to fix the heads on the ol' Dirty Bird rather than buy a new car. It was like an 8 hour task between 3 of us, but we finally got the car back together (with its new heads complete with a 3 angle valve job, bitches ) and after a long 2 nights of screaming at the car about how fucking stupid GM's techs are, it was time to start it up.

Crank....the valves aren't closing, we can hear it...Crank, crank...still nothing - double-you-tee-eff, the lifters should've had time to collapse by now?

Come to find out, we overlooked a very important fact...The bird uses adjustable lifters, and we torqued the fuckers all the way down thinking they were non-adjustable....

...Ripped the motor apart to find my pushrods had become pretzels, a few rockers had been broken, and we haven't been able to tear everything out to lift the heads and inspect the valves yet.

Does anyone know where I can get any heads/valves/rockers/pushrods - aftermarket or OEM, just anything I can get a decent deal on - to fix this? Also, are there any other places in the engine I should check for problems due to this little mishap?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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all that work for nothing. ouch that sucks HARD.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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1-877-448-5481 Dal

OEM GM parts at cost...
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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ouch...


summit sells all that stuff for pretty cheap.



on anothing note, i can't believe this post wasn't made by phinger. it sounds like something he would do
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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compucam makes 2 different cames for teh 3.4, give one a shot!
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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i hate to say it...but that was fuckin retarded...dont do high skill level work on a car and not know what your doing. you tighten the rockers to 22ft/lbs.

every single valve is probably broken/bent. piston faces may be ok, but probably arent. hopefully you havent damaged the cam.

personally, i would go to a salvage yard and yank some stocker heads off a car. its going to be the cheapest way, and your probably lookin at 1-200 to do it.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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ouch...


summit sells all that stuff for pretty cheap.



on anothing note, i can't believe this post wasn't made by phinger. it sounds like something he would do
sorry, im not that stupid you asshole...just because i dont know anything about AC systems does not mean i cant fix other things.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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We were worn out and the thought that they were adjustable and needed to be tightened, then loosened until some play is felt, then tightened to snug, then turned 1 full rotation afterwards just slipped our minds. But I'll write down the 22ft/lbs, its easier than how I read to do it without a torque wrench, I'll remember it for round 2, thanks.

Anyways, to all of you who recommended numbers and whatnot, I'll probably give 'em a try given that the pistons weren't damaged in the little mishap. And for the cam, well, I think it really would be retarded to try and build a 3.4L, but meh, who knows - maybe if the cam is shot and the price is right (i also don't want to dig into that bottom end. The top end is a nightmare enough).

Oh yeah, on a sidenote, I think we torqued them to somewhere around 30ft/lbs...as I said, we were exhausted and not paying attention. I'm hoping that they might have had enough play not to fuck up the piston being that tight....?
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 03:47 AM
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you should be ok on the cam. sounds like you only did a few rotations with it...after a while if it had been running and they were over tightened, you can wear the lobes right off the cam.
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it probably would have been easier, and more worthwhile, to buy a 350 crate motor and just drop it in
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