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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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what does everyone use? what if some one could bring you that gas at any time would you all like that?
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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I could be mistaken but, don't most of the tracks sell race fuel at the track?

if that is the case... then this service would only really come in handy when not at the track... which would indirectly be an endorsement of street racing... just sayin..
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Empire
I could be mistaken but, don't most of the tracks sell race fuel at the track?

if that is the case... then this service would only really come in handy when not at the track... which would indirectly be an endorsement of street racing... just sayin..
lol your not to bright are you ?
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 88allamericanstang
lol your not to bright are you ?
What he means is that it would not be necessary, though if you sold it slightly cheaper, I suppose that you could make a bit of money. I would not advise it though lol
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 88allamericanstang
lol your not to bright are you ?
yeah... I'm the dim one... cause I'm trying to start a business, or at least invest in one, that has little to know market with an even smaller clientele.
Lets look at it for a minute...
out of all of the cars on the road, how many are even built?
then, out of those, how many of them are built to the point of needing race gas?
Now, out of that very small number, how many of them are even driven on the streets?
And if that number wasn't small enough, how many of those highly built cars that need race gas that are driven on the street go anywhere expect to and from the race track?
So now that we have narrowed it down to your very very limited target market, how many of those car owners are going to need you to bring them race fuel?
I would say, generally speaking of course, that anyone 50 is going to be able to order it to their house themselves, since A) it is cheaper that way and B) they have the physical ability to move a 55 gallon drum around and C) their income is high enough that they can afford the buy in cost for that.
by that measure, we've ruled out a good chunk of the street racers.
So now we are talking about high performance, highly built race cars, that need race fuel, that are driven on the street, going somewhere, other than the track, owned by someone over 50 that has the financial standing to be able to have their race fuel delivered to them.
How many old guys have you met driving cars that needed race fuel?
I can count maybe a dozen, and that is across several states...
Now, out of that very limited target market, how are you going to add value to make it worth paying the increased cost? Unless you've got some major hook up from VP to be able to race fuel for dirty cheap, you're either going to have to mark it up per gallon, or at the very least charge a delivery fee to make it even worth your time. And I'm picturing at least an f150... maybe a big van, neither is going to get very good gas mileage... so unless you're going to have a 3 dollar mark up and a 5 gallon minimum, you're going to have to charge at least 15 bucks for the delivery fee... considering we've already discussed how if someone could afford to buy race fuel in bulk, they would because it is far less per gallon that way, and considering how often these kinds of cars actually get driven, I'm not picturing people buying much more than 5 gallons at a time.
So now, our target market gets even smaller because anyone that lives within 15 miles of a racetrack could actually save money driving their race car to the track to buy race fuel. Maybe even more depending on how poor their gas mileage is.
Target market is highly built, high performance cars that require race gas, driven on the street, driven some where other than to and from the race track, owned by the over 50 year old age segment, with limited income to prevent them from buying their own drums, that live too far away from a race track.
The exception being the cheap ass kids that take their race cars out to race on the streets, that live too far from the track to buy it there and are too dumb to plan a head...
so old guys... and dumb street racers...
yeah, that's an amazing market to break into.
We've not even touched into the fact that you can't legally re-sell fuel without dealing with the regulations and all of that. So marketing is out because you'd have to do it under the radar...
If you somehow managed to do it legally, disregarding the initial investment price tag, now that f150 just turned into a legit fuel truck and insurance costs just went through the roof, so now that $15 delivery fee just doubled.
Man, this business just keeps looking better and better.

but you know, you're right... I'm the dim one...
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Oh, and the obligatory correction....

Originally Posted by 88allamericanstang
lol you're not too bright are you ?
fixed.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 88allamericanstang
lol your not to bright are you ?
I was going to dissect this and explain you and your parents faults, then I saw I didn't need to
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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Empire, it's been almost 6 years since I've been on this site and I think I love you . Lay it down like its needed.
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