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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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sorry, but history proves if you want an econobox... toyota and honda are king ... i'm not buying anything american that doesnt have a V8... and then i'm still skeptical
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by flyspyder55
sorry, but history proves if you want an econobox... toyota and honda are king ... i'm not buying anything american that doesnt have a V8... and then i'm still skeptical
Then you're a lemming and not a car enthusiast.

Come out from your cave and take a look around. There are some really good domestic cars on the market, economy cars or otherwise. Why limit yourself to the vast amount of choices you have available because of some ill-conceived notion that somehow Japanese compact cars are superior.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Well said.

If this does indeed get the Ecoboost id be pretty interested to see the sticker price.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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If they made that car and only gave it 175 hp that would be retarded. The mazdaspeed 3 is 263 hp and 280 tq and starts around 25k.. it atleast needs to compete with that IMO
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TIM TIM TIM
If they made that car and only gave it 175 hp that would be retarded. The mazdaspeed 3 is 263 hp and 280 tq and starts around 25k.. it atleast needs to compete with that IMO

The mazdaspeed 3 is a lot bigger than this thing though.

I do like the speed thought its a fun car.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TIM TIM TIM
If they made that car and only gave it 175 hp that would be retarded. The mazdaspeed 3 is 263 hp and 280 tq and starts around 25k.. it atleast needs to compete with that IMO
I don't think you realize how small this thing is. This thing is about the size of a Honda Fit, possibly smaller. A Fit barely has more than a 100 hp. 175HP would be more than enough for this car. It'll most likely be priced less than a Fit too. I think Toyota and Honda have much to worry about.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by fastforward
I don't think you realize how small this thing is. This thing is about the size of a Honda Fit, possibly smaller. A Fit barely has more than a 100 hp. 175HP would be more than enough for this car. It'll most likely be priced less than a Fit too. I think Toyota and Honda have much to worry about.
Plus, its most likely coming with a turbo that is probably the size of a can of peas, so you can probably push it a little further with a bigger turbo.

I'm excited to see some swaps.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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id be down for one of these if they were ecoboost and awd haha
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 240Cyanide
id be down for one of these if they were ecoboost and awd haha
AWD, turbo'd and cheap? You cant have everything
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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if only it was AWD.
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