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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Oh yeah? My car got 100 HP just from an intake, exhaust, and boost controller. Or in ghetto speak, inz and outz n twisty knobz
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Devils_Advocate
15 psi and it only went 13.0 ? seriously that is quite slow. esp. for the weight savings he has done . no bumpers? not quite a sleeper. I had 0 psi and hung with multiple 13.4 cars and I didn't do any sorts of weight savings.. anybody can spin some small tires in a light car with a little bit of power.

I know of a certain stock 2.0 with stock turbo at 16 psi that went 12.3 in a heavier car. that omni is not the best you can come up with for that car. I also had a friend with an omni glhs that would make the one in the video look like a festiva running on 3 cylinders.

The age of the engines has nothing to do with anything
You obviously have no idea or experience on turbocharged vehicles. Did you miss the part where I said "stock turbo". Just because it's running 15psi, doesn't mean it's going to pull like a Supra. The efficiency of a small stock turbocharger isn't going to net huge power gains. The car in the video is probably putting out less than 200whp. Once the turbocharger is upgraded to a larger unit, it becomes much more efficient at the same boost level, which in turn will net you more power.

Also keep in mind all stock turbos are not equal, some are larger than others, which in turn, helps to car do better in performance. For instance an SR20DET, that comes with a T25G will only net about 240whp at 14psi. That's only good for low 13s, and that's the cap for the stock turbo. Other cars, such as a STI, EVO, SRT-4, and MazdaSpeed 3, come with a larger and more efficient turbo from the factory, so you can crank the boost up to 22psi and get the car into the 12s easily.

It appears you're having problems putting things into context. This car was released in 1984 and it was faster than the Mustang 5.0 at the time. Other than a handful of sports cars, there wasn't much, if anything, that could compete against it in its category.

On the contrary, when the H22 came out for the Prelude, it was considered average. By this time there were many sports cars in the low 14s and in the 13s stock. So at the time, it wasn't really impressive. Today, a Dodge Omni GLH is considered average performance, but back in 1984.... it was fast for what is was.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Superluminal
You obviously have no idea or experience on turbocharged vehicles. Did you miss the part where I said "stock turbo". Just because it's running 15psi, doesn't mean it's going to pull like a Supra. The efficiency of a small stock turbocharger isn't going to net huge power gains. The car in the video is probably putting out less than 200whp. Once the turbocharger is upgraded to a larger unit, it becomes much more efficient at the same boost level, which in turn will net you more power.

Also keep in mind all stock turbos are not equal, some are larger than others, which in turn, helps to car do better in performance. For instance an SR20DET, that comes with a T25G will only net about 240whp at 14psi. That's only good for low 13s, and that's the cap for the stock turbo. Other cars, such as a STI, EVO, SRT-4, and MazdaSpeed 3, come with a larger and more efficient turbo from the factory, so you can crank the boost up to 22psi and get the car into the 12s easily.

It appears you're having problems putting things into context. This car was released in 1984 and it was faster than the Mustang 5.0 at the time. Other than a handful of sports cars, there wasn't much, if anything, that could compete against it in its category.

On the contrary, when the H22 came out for the Prelude, it was considered average. By this time there were many sports cars in the low 14s and in the 13s stock. So at the time, it wasn't really impressive. Today, a Dodge Omni GLH is considered average performance, but back in 1984.... it was fast for what is was.
Thanks for the "schoolin" on turbos but I have driven, built, and owned turbo vehicles before. none of which were hack jobs either. You missed my point completely when I said I knew of a Heavier car, with ALSO a stock turbo and smaller engine (1993 2.0 vs your 1984 2.2), putting out only 1 psi more, doing .7 better in the 1/4 .. hence the reason I said the omni in your video was slow. even with no bumpers.

Stating that your video'd car has less than 200 hp .. that sure is a mean street sleeper , and the prelude is in no way considered a sports car. but when it came with 100 hp per liter n/a and equipped with an lsd .. well that was just honda doing their thing.


here is a link to the cars you are trying to describe to me. if you want to read up on them a little more before you post again.

The Dodge Omni GLH, Dodge Omni GLHS, and Dodge Charger GLH-S

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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lol at 100hp per liter in a prelude...thats bullshit...or you just cant do math
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by shinmei2006
lol at 100hp per liter in a prelude...thats bullshit...or you just cant do math
yea that's it, I have a problem with math

heres a link for the nissan guys who are in the dark..

Prelude Type S Technical Highlights


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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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did you have a type S H22? or one of the other two not so 100hp per liter H22s? because i can throw up a sr20ve from a 2001+ Primera and say oh...205hp, thats just nissan doing its thing.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by shinmei2006
did you have a type S H22? or one of the other two not so 100hp per liter H22s? because i can throw up a sr20ve from a 2001+ Primera and say oh...205hp, thats just nissan doing its thing.
What I had doesn't matter , we are talking about the potential the engines had from the factory, in comparison to the shelby. even though both were built for two different reasons

But I did not sucker into a type S, I would not spend the extra money for an engine I was going to build anyways.

and your forgetting the 1.6L that nissan had which put out 170+ hp .. but still had the tq of a honda.

omnis are fun though , oddly there is one at a junkyard right now in brandon. I prefer them over the 80's chargers any day.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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has this been posted yet ?




Here is a video of one modified highly to 800hp . 10 second 1/4 and 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.. looks stock to me!
http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/...ctionReq=Where

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Devils_Advocate
yea that's it, I have a problem with math

heres a link for the nissan guys who are in the dark..

Prelude Type S Technical Highlights

For you Honda guys in the dark....



SR16VE N1 was released in the Asian market in 1997-1998. This 1.6L I4 put out 197hp/134tq. That's 123hp per litre, more than anything Honda ever put out in a production car. Just want to reiterate what Devils stated.

Anyway... enough bullshit. Keep postin up the sleepers.

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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^ that was tuned by an outside company...it wasnt stock from nissan
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