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I just got done taking a ride and saw a shell gas station offering nitrogen enriched fuel. I did some research about it article. If you enjoyed reading this article please prop it. This article was picked up by Propeller and has received 77 props.
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After in depth research, it turns out it contains 5x epa required amount of detergent, and more than double top tier gasoline standard for detergent.

Is this amount of detergent good or bad? Anyone used it? It sounds great because it fights gunk and carbon, but is diluting my gasoline with more cleaner going to affect my immediate performance just to save a couple of $$$ later?

It sounds good, but it also sounds like a way for gasoline companies to dilute and make more $$ per gal pumped out of the earth.
what do you think? nitrogen gas a good intention, or bad?

 

i havent used it yet honestly i just run 93oct *shrughs personally i think its just a crock for big oil to give u less and make more kinda like mcdonalds

 

As far as diluting the gasoline, the 87-89-93 sticker is the minimum octane rating of whatever comes out of the hose. Half of it could rat piss. 10% of it could be corn mash. Whatever it is the RON+MON / 2 is what the sticker says.

I never understood why oil companies insist on adding additional cleaners to gas. Gasoline is a great solvent. None of the 100k mile motors I've taken apart have had the "coral reef" looking buildup on the backs of the valves. You know what will clean that carbon off? Normal gasoline and a toothbrush. How the hell is carbon getting there? Combustion doesn't happen in the intake port. Isn't that from oil leak down from the valve stem seals? Wouldn't you be better off not driving around a beat motor that burns oil?

 

Those commercials are a crock of shit,i've taken apart quite a few motors,and NONE of the valves on any have been nearly as bad as the ones they show.

 

From what i've read at the couple of forums I post at, the majority of people take this as a marketing scam by the oil companies based on a few reasons:

1.) Nitrogen is an inert gas that doesn't burn. How can adding this to my fuel possibly help?

2.)It's just diluting the gasoline

Basically, everyone thinks its a sham because shell won't release exactly how it helps. All they do is make claims of what it does instead of posting the science behind it. The only reason I can think of how it works is that the nitrogen added to the detergent helps keep the cleaner & carb build up prevention chemical from burning off during combustion. I have no proof other than my own theory, but when I find it i'll post it.

Hopefully shell lets the cat out of the bag soon, otherwise this ploy of theirs is being perceived as foul. If they are truely changing how fuel works as they say, there's a good chance we'll see some higher performance out of smaller engines in the future.

 

i just filled up at a shell that had the signs up saying the gas is now nitrogen enriched, i didnt notice a differect......however, my car is also brand new and the only thing i would think it would do is give a little fuel system clean which i dont need in my new vehicle. we put it in the old vehicle too though and didn't notice a difference either. in summary, i think its just marketing trying to get people to come back to them bc i know a lot of people banned them (myself included) to only buy american gas. only reason i've been going there now though is bc its closest to my house, not counting a crappy gas qwik??

 

^ Yup I know all about the whole banning thing. I try to only pump Hess, Racetrack, Sunoco, and BP.

 

Nitrogen, the new "carbon". (buzz word)

 

Marketing at work.

 

the shell banning, what is that all about?

I've read that for us turbo guys who are close to maxing out injectors this might be a bad thing because the inert gas (non-flammable detergent) is taking up space in our combustion chambers which would cause afr adjustments resulting in use of more injector. If we are already maxing out, will this cause a lean condition? What do ya'll think?